Introduction

Ceade Mile Failte - One Hundred Thousand Welcomes - This is the Irish Interest Group's first internet newsletter. Newsletters will be published in February, April, June, August, October and December each year.

The web-page address is -: http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/gcags/irish

The Irish Interest Group's motto is "The Irish Green Behind The Gold."
The Gold Coast City Council promote our district as "the green behind the gold" which means - the green hinterland behind the 36 kilometres of golden sandy beaches. We, (the Irish Interest Group) are 'the Irish green behind the gold" i.e., we are the Irish Interest Group "behind" the Gold Coast and Albert Genealogical Society Inc.
The green and gold colours are the same as those of the Royal House of David. Is that why the Gold Coast is known as "God's own place"

For the overseas reader, Gold Coast is about 70km south of Brisbane on the east coast of Australia. Our group have clubrooms in the Bi-Centennial Community Hall next to the Gold Coast City Council Chambers at Nerang. To find out more about the Gold Coast go to the web-page for Gold Coast Direct - http://www.goldcoast-australia.com/index3.html - or Viv Bibby's homepage at
http://www.onthenet.com.au/~vivib/

Gold Coast and Albert Genealogical Society Inc.

The Society was formed about 20 years ago and this year the membership exceeds 700.
They have a homepage at http://www.onthenet.com.au/~annmorse/nerang.html and the web mistress is Ann Morse., email-: annmorse@onthenet.com.au
The snail mail address for the secretary is Box 2763 Southport Queensland 4215

The Society has four interest groups., Computer, Scottish, Tasmania, and Irish

Irish Interest Group

The group meets six times a year on the first Sunday in the month.(Feb,Apr, Jun, Aug, Oct, Dec)
The convenor is Merv Rossiter, ph 07 5572 5754 or email - merv@winshop.com.au

The Irish on the Gold Coast

(1) Gold Coast Irish Australian Association Inc

 The Chairperson is Patrick Clancy, email-: pclancy@fan.net.au - ph 55 985 237 (bus)
and the Association's address is
PO Box 928 Mudgeeraba Queensland 4213

(2)Where to Eat, Drink and Shop on the Gold Coast

"Nellie Kelly's' - Irish restaurant and bar - 9 Elkorn St. Surfers Paradise
"Darcy Arms" - Irish restaurant and bar - 2923 Gold Coast Highway Surfers Paradise
"Angler's Arms" - Licensed Hotel (O'Toole's Bar) - 50 Queen Street Southport

(3)Where to Stay on the Gold Coast

"Darcy Arms" 2923 Gold Coast Highway Surfers Paradise - ph (07) 5592 0882
"Angler's Arms" 50 Queen Street Southport - ph (07) 5532 1677

Finding Your Irish Ancestors on the Internet

One way to find your Irish ancestors on the Internet is to join the newsgroup, "soc.genealogy.ireland" If you send questions to this group you will find a lot of people willing to help you. The best way to join this group is to go to the "Free Agent" site at http://www.forteinc.com and download the programme. It's free. If you require help please ask.

Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

The National Archives of Ireland
http://www.kst.dit.ie/nat-arch/index.html (site index)
http://www.kst.dit.ie/nat-arch.genealogy.html (genealogy information)
http://www.kst.dit.ie/nat-arch/search01.html (Irish convicts to Australia)

Birth, Death, Marriage cerificate exchange
http://www.eskimo.com/~chance/misc/

Kennys Bookshop
http:www.kennys.ie/index.html
email-: queries@kennys.ie

Antrim County Genealogy
http://www.genealogy.org/~liam

Leitrim-Roscommon Homepage
http://www.thecore.com/let_ros/

Registry of Deeds Office Dublin
http://www.irlgov.ie/landreg/

Email Directory for Ireland
http://www.esearch.ie/

Irish Genealogical Society International (IGSI)
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish

Irish Family History Society
http://homepage.eircom.net/~ifhs

North of Ireland Family History Society
http://www.os.qub.ac.uk/nifhs/journal/index.html

Ulster Historical Foundation
http://www.uhf.org.uk

Western Australia Genealogical Society - Irish Group
http://cleo.murdoch.edu.au/~wags/sigirish.htm

Irish Roots Magazine Homepage
http://www.iol.ie/~irishrts/

Irish Genealogy
http://www.irish-insight.com/a2z-genealogy

Irish History - Wildgeese
http://www.thewildgeese.com/

Allan Scahill Homepage
http://www2.memlane.com/ascahill

TIARA - The Irish Ancestral Research Association
http://www.tiara.ie

National Library of Ireland
http://www.heanet.ie/natlib/homepage.html

Public Record Office of Northern Ireland
http://proni.nics.gov.uk/index.htm

Allan Tupman Homepage
http://freespace.virgin.net/alan.tupman/sites/irish.htm

Irish Family Names Noticeboard
http://names.local.ie

Telephone Direcories (world-wide)
http://www.contractjobs.com/tel/

The above sites can be found, with about 250 others, in my book "Bookmarks on the Internet for Family Historians". If you would like a copy, please contact me for details.

New Webpages

"The Irish at Home and Abroad" - A Journal of Irish Genealogy and Heritage
http://www.IHAonline.com

"In Dublin" - tourism and genealogy
http://www.indublin.com/

"Swift Guide to Ireland" - A directory
http://swift.kerna.com/

"Local Ireland"
http://www.local.ie/
http://local.ie/front/links/

"Irish Corner"
The Rossiter Research Registry at http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/ publish a newsletter four times a year. Each newsletter features Irish information which is found in the "Irish Corner".

Irish Family Mottos
A list of Irish family mottos can be found at http://www.winshop.com/merv/mottos.htm
This site won a "Links2Go Award" in July 1998
see http://www.links2go.com/award/Irish_Genealogy

Gold Coast Irish Interest Group News

On Saturday the 11th July we were favoured with a visit by Terry Eakin who demonstrated the Griffiths Valuation Index on cdrom. The cdrom is now available in Australia from Gould Books for $105.00. email-: gould@adelaide.on.net - (http://www.gould.com.au) If you would like to know the LDS microfiche index numbers for the Tithe Applotment Book and Griffiths Valuation Register for the parish that you are researching, I can look them up for you. This free service is available to all readers.(members and non-members)

On Monday the 5th October Doctor Brian Trainor, research director of the Ulster Genealogical and Historical Guild, will address our group.

The next meeting of the Irish Interest Group will be held on Sunday 02 August at 10.30am. There will be a talk and video about Ballykissangel.

Closing Irish Prayer

"May you all be in heaven for at least 30 minutes before the devil finds out that you are dead."

God Bless You All

Merv Rossiter
merv@winshop.com.au
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter

44 Vatakoula Parade
Mermaid Waters
Queensland
Australia 4218

August 1998

Introduction

Greetings from the Gold Coast where the weather is beautiful one day and perfect the next.
It's all happening here on the Gold Coast. Diamaru have a new shop at Pacific Fair. The Tropocarnival Celebrations start next week. The Indy Grand Prix is on this month and the water at Surfers Paradise beach is a warm 21 degrees and rising. But more importantly, we are hosting a visit from Dr.Brian Trainor who is coming all the way from Ireland to tell us how to find our Irish ancestors. So to get you all into the right frame of mind, I present the following information for your edification.

Queensland Irish Association

The Queensland Irish Association was established on 23 March 1898. Its headquarters are at Tara House, 175-179 Elizabeth Street, Brisbane. Facilities at Tara House include excellent dining facilities, poker machines, a cultural programme, Pipe Band, QIA Dancers, Tara Singers, Tara Theatre Group, live entertainment, darts, social golf, social bowls, Ladies and Mens Gourmet Clubs, and a Cyber Club. Annual membership $35 p.a.

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

Did your Irish ancestors go to New York. Check the Ellis Island emigration site at
http://www.ellisisland.org

Irish Tartan webpages
http://www.tartanweb.com/tweb/irish.htm
http://www.house-of-tartan.scotland.net/

County Wicklow genealogy
http:www.wicklow.ie/1798

The Society of Genealogists (London) now has online ordering from its bookshop
http://www.sog.org.uk/acatalog/welcome.html

Irish Interest Books
http://www.readireland.ie

Scotch-Irish Web Page
http://members.aol.com/ntgen/hrtg/scirish.html

Sligo Genealogy
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/index.html

Fianna (updated)
http://www.rootsweb.com/~fianna/

Antrim - 1851 census online
http://www.genealogy.org/~liam

A step by step guide to finding your ancestor in Ireland
http://www.geocities.com/~fiannag/start.html

Armagh County Genealogy
http://www.worldgenweb.org/ireland/armagh/index.html

County Carlow records online
http://www.worldgenweb.org/ireland/carlow/

1798 Irish rebels to New South Wales
http://www.actonline.com.au/~ppmay/

Guiness Brewing
http://www.guiness.ie/

Virtual Irish Pub-Bulletin Board
http://visunet.ie/cgi/Bbord

Republic of Ireland - Eire

Ireland was occupied by Goidelic speaking celts during the Iron age. They were converted to Christianity by Saint Patrick in the 5th century. Henry II of England declared himself Lord of Ireland in 1171, but English influence was restricted to the area around Dublin. Henry VIII took the title of King of Ireland in 1542. A struggle for Irish freedom developed in the 18th and 19th centuries including such revolutionary movements as Wolfe Tone's United Irishmen, Young Ireland and the Fenians. Armed rebellion led to a republic proclaimed by Sinn Fein in 1919. Partition was proposed by Britain in 1920 and a treaty was signed giving dominion status in 1921. The country was renamed Eire in 1937 and left the Commonwealth in 1949.

The first postage stamps were issued in 1922

from -: http://www.philately.com/ireland.htm

Ballykissangel

The British (BBC) telvision series of the same name was shot in Avoca which is 55 kms south of Dublin. To get there take N11 south to Rathnew, then R752 via Rathdrum to Avoca.

An alternative (more scenic but a little slower) route from Dublin is to take N11 to Kilmacanoge, then R755 via Roundwood and Laragh (deviating perhaps via Glendalough to see the Monastic City and lakes en route at this point) then back to R755 via Rathdrum to Avoca.

The nearest town is Arklow.

To find out more about Ballkissangel, go to the Webferrett homepage at http: //www.ferretsoft.com
Download this free shareware programme and when it is up and running type in Ballykissangel and then you will have 500 webpages to read.

Book Reviews

Did your Irish ancestors come from Ireland to California and then to Australia or did they come to Australia first and then go to California ? In either event there are two books in the Queensland State Library available on inter-library loan. They are as follows.

"Rags or Riches - Passengers and Ships-Sydney to California 1849 to 1851"

Compiled by Pamela Sheldon. ISBN 0 646 10645 7

There are 4900 passengers listed.

"Rags or Riches 2 - Passengers and Ships - California to Sydney 1849 to 1852"

Compiled by Pamela Sheldon. ISBN 0 646 12121 9

There are 2500 passengers listed. Your Irish ancestors were probably chasing gold, which was discovered in California in 1849, Australia in 1851, and New Zealand in 1861. For further reading see "Gold Seekers for California" by Charles Bateson.

Irish Interest Group News

Griffiths Valuation cd-rom is now available at the club-rooms. The cd-rom gives first name, surname, parish, and town. The next step is to find the Griffiths Valuation and Tithe Applotment index numbers and order the films from the Church of the Latter Day Saints. A book of index numbers is available at the clubrooms or they are available on microfiche (3) from the LDS, number 6826722.

The Tithe Defaulters Indexes (1831) are also available at the clubrooms. There are 15 fiche with 29,027 names listed as follows.

Kilkenny - 10,263 names on 4 fiche

Tipperary - 9346 names on 3 fiche

Wexford - 2773 names on 2 fiche

Cork - 2115 names on 1 fiche

Waterford - 1838 name on 1 fiche

Louth - 965 names on 1 fiche

Limerick - 851 names on 1 fiche

Laois - 360.,Meath - 36., Carlow - 437., Offaly - 23., Kerry - 20.,
a total of 886 names on one fiche.

The fiche show first name, surname, and Church of Ireland parish. The next steps are to find the equivalent civil parish then the Griffiths Valauation and Tithe Applotment index numbers

The next meeting is on Sunday 04 September 1998 where a workshop will be conducted on Griffiths Valuation, Tithe Applotment, Tithe Defaulters, and 1901 and 1911 census.

A special meeting will be held on Monday 05 September 1998 where the guest speaker will be Doctor Brian Trainor who is Research Director for the Ulster Genealogical and Historical Guild.

The last meeting for the year will be on Sunday 06 December 1998. A paper will be presented entitled "Ned Kelly and Buffalo Bill - The Real McCoy"

A Letter From an Irish mother

Dear Son

Just a few lines to let you know I'm still alive. I'm writing this letter slowly because I know you can't read fast. You won't know the house when we get home - we have moved.

About your father - he has a lovely new job. He has 500 men under him - he cuts grass at the cemetery. There was a washing machine at the new house when we moved in but it hasn't worked too good. Last week I put in 14 shirts, pulled the chain and haven't seen the shirts since.

Your sister Mary had a baby this morning but I haven't found out if it's a boy or a girl, so I don't know if you are an auntie or an uncle.

Your Uncle Patrick drowned last week in a vat of whiskey in the Dublin Brewery. Some of his workmates tried to save him but he fought them off bravely. They cremated him and it took three days to put out the fire.

I went to the doctor on Thursday and your father went with me. The doctor put a small tube in my mouth and told me not to talk for ten minutes. Your father offered to buy it from him.

It only rained twice this week, first for three days and then for four days. Monday was so windy one of the chickens laid the same egg four times.

We had a letter from the under-taker. He said if the last payment on your Grandmother's plot wasn't paid in seven days, up she comes.

Your loving Mother

P.S. I was going to send you ten pounds but I had already sealed the envelope.

Closing Thought

If there is a will, I want to be in it.

God Bless You All

Merv Rossiter
Convenor.

ANDERSON, Kildallan Co Cavan, anytime, Kathleen Lommel. klom@winshop.com.au
ARMSTRONG, Fermanagh Co Armagh, 1825. Clifford Crealy. clifford@onthenet.com.au
BLACK, Co.Tyrone., all., Joan Hart, c/o merv@winshop.com.au
COLLINS, Henry, Tullyish Co Down, 1830. Irene Kemp-Cross. c/o merv@winshop.com.au
BURKE, Skull Co Cork, 1861. Mick Webb. MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
COGGINS, Co Sligo, pre1777, Norm Nicholas., c/o merv@winshop.com.au
COLLINS, Co Limerick, 1835, Ron Sullivan. c/o merv@winshop.com.au
CREELEY, Richhill Kilmore Co Armagh, 1825. Clifford Crealy. clifford@onthenet.com.au
CRILLEY, ...............................(ditto)
CRILLY, ..................................(ditto)
DALY, Castletown Co.Weastmeath, 1831.Mick Webb. MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
DALY, Kilmore Co Cork, 1854, Mick Webb. MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
DICKSON, Kilrush Co Clare, 1850. Mick Webb. MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
DRURY, Thurles Co Tipperary 1880+ , Kathleen Lommel. klom@winshop.com.au
DRURY, anywhere in Ireland, pre 1800, Kathleen Lommel. klom@winshop.com.au
FARRELL, Carrick on Shannon Co Leitrim, 1836. Mick Webb. MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
FITZGERALD, Co Tipperary pre 1850, Kathleen Lommel. klom@winshop.com.au
FLAVIN, Co Clare 1848. Ron Sullivan c/o merv@winshop.com.au
FLYNN, Clonmel Co Tipperrary, 1814. Mick Webb. MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
GIBSON, Fermanagh Co Armagh, 1800+ Clifford Crealy. clifford@onthenet.com.au
GLASGON, 1817 Dublin. Mick Webb. MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
GORMAN, Co Tyrone, pre 1850. Kathleen Lommel. klom@winshop.com.au
GRADY, Galway, pre 1776, Norm Nicholas, c/o merv@winshop.com.au
GRIFFIN, Shannagolden Co Limerick, 1836. Ron Sullivan c/o merv@winshop.com.au
HAYES, Cashel, Co Tipperary, 1837. Ron Sullivan c/o merv@winshop.com.au
HOGAN, Co Tipperary pre 1880, Kathleen Lommel. klom@winshop.com.au
HEALY/HILL, Co Cavan, pre 1794, Norm Nicholas, c/o merv@winshop.com.au
KERRISK, all Ireland, 1831, Max Kerrisk, conmax@onthenet.com.au
KILPATRICK, Dublin, 1855. Mick Webb. MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
LENAN, John Michael, Co Clare, 1800, Irene Kemp-Cross. c/o merv@winshop.com.au
LEONARD, John Michael........... (ditto)
LOONEY, Castle Island Co Kerry, Max Kerrisk, conmax@bigpond.com.au
McCANE, Kilevy Co Armagh, 1890 Mick Webb, MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
MAGENNIS, Dublin, pre 1769., Norm Nicholas, c/o merv@winshop.com.au
MacGORMAN, Co Tyrone, pre 1850. Kathleen Lommel. klom@winshop.com.au
McMULLEN, Mary, Co Armagh, 1800.Irene Kemp-Cross. c/o merv@winshop.com.au
MELDRUM, Co.Tyrone., Any. Joan Hart c/o merv@winshop.com.au
MULDONNEY, Co Roscommon, 1850. Mick Webb. MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
O'HARA, Drumkeeran Co Leitrim, anytime, Kathleen Lommel. klom@winshop.com.au
POWER, Coolquill Co Tipperary, 1831. Mick Webb. MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
RAMSAY, Fermanagh Co.Armagh, 1830+ Clifford Crealy. clifford@onthenet.com.au
RAMSEY, ..........................(ditto)
REDMOND, Michael, Newtonbarry Co Wexford, 1807, Irene c/o merv@winshop.com.au
ROSSETER, ROSSITER, all Ireland, anytime, Merv Rossiter. merv@winshop.com.au
ROSSITER, Wexford. 1169 - present, Merv Rossiter. merv@winshop.com.au
SAMMON, Margaret, Co Offaly (Kings) 1860. Irene Kemp-Cross, c/o merv@winshop.com.au
SINNOTT, Esther (father Christian Sinnot) c1830 Kathleen Lommel. klom@winshop.com.au
STEVENSON, William, Co Armagh, 1800. Irene Kemp-Cross. c/o merv@winshop.com.au
SULLIVAN, Co Limerick, 1847, Ron Sullivan c/o merv@winshop.com.au
WATSON, all, Co Tyrone., Joan Hart., c/o merv@winshop.com.au
WEBB, Manchester Lancashire, 1860. Mick Webb. MICHAEL37@bigpond.com.au
WHITE, Kinnagad, pre 1788., Norm Nicholas., c/o merv@winshop.com.au
WILLIAMS, Knockmanoule, Co Fermanagh, pre 1850. K.Lommel. klom@winshop.com.au
WILSON, Kilross,Raphoe, Co Donegal, Co Tyrone., Joan HART c/omerv@winshop.com.au
 

Last updated 25 January 1999

Introduction

A very Merry Xmas to you and yours. Another year is rapidly coming to an end. Looking back over the last twelve months there has been some noticeable events. We had our "May Muster" seminar., a visit from Terry Eakin demonstrating the Griffiths Valuation CDROM., a visit from Doctor Brian Trainor who is the Research Director for the Ulster Genealogical and Historical Guild in Belfast., and finally our newsletter is now "on the net". The internet is going ahead in leaps and bounds and I predict that 1999 will be an exciting time for our group.

Doctor Trainor's Visit

Doctor Brian Trainor, escorted by Terry Eakin lectured at our club on Monday the 5th September.
Dr.Trainor spoke on Griffiths Valuation and Tithe Applotment records, the Genealogical Office in Dublin, the Royal Irish Academy, Devon Commission, Trinity College, Wills for Ireland and Northern Ireland, National School Records and Old Age Pensions.

The Royal Irish Acadamy have an excellent internet site at http://www.ria.ie/ If you would like information on the Academy or would like to visit Academy House please contact -:

Trinity College (Dublin) have an internet site at http://www.tcd.ie and also the library catalogue is on-line.

The National Schools Records for Northern Ireland have been filmed by the Mormon Church and the film index numbers are available in the Family History Library Catalogue

The Old Age Pension was introduced in Ireland in 1908 for those people over 70 years of age. Applicants were required to produce a birth certificate but as civil registration did not begin to 1864, the 1841 and 1851 census information was used, these documents were then lost in 1922 when the Four Courts were burnt down. The Pension records have been filmed by the Mormon Church and the index film numbers are available in the Family History Library Catalogue.

Dr Trainor brought some books along for members to purchase and Terry brought some books from his library for us to look at. Amongst Terry's collection was a journal "The Irish At Home and Abroad". This is a great publication and also it is on the internet at -: http://www.IHAonline.com

The following books were purchased for the Society's library.
FAMILIA VOL2 NO3, REAESEARCH IN IRELAND(Terry Eakin), CIVIL REGISTRATION BDM'S IN IRELAND, ULSTER LIBRARIES (O'NEIL), RESEARCHING IRISH AUSTRALIANS (Trainor), ANCESTORS IN IRELAND (video)

The following books have been ordered.
GUIDE TO THE GENEALOGICAL OFFICE (Greenham)., CONVERT ROLLS (Eilleen O'Byrne)., ABSRACT OF WILLS (Registry of Deeds)
The Society is also subscribing to the Ulster Historical Guild journal and the Irish Roots journal.

"All Ireland Sources Newsletter"

Terry Eakin has commenced writing a monthly newsletter., the first issue was on 22 November 1998. Topics dealt with were Doctor Trainor's tour, Irish Repositories on the Internet, and School Records for Ireland in the National Archives."

The next issue will be published in late December. If you would like to be on the mailing list please email Terry at <teakin@chilli.net.au>

Book Review

"Poverty to Promise - The Monteagle Immigrants, 1838 -1858"
by Christopher O'Mahony and Valerie Thompson., ISBN 0.646.16005

Lord and Lady Monteagle of Mount Trenchard in County Limerick assisted more than 730 Irish men and women to come to Australia between 1838 and 1858. They were from three parishes in Shanagolden , along the southern bank of the River Shannon

The book contains many letters written by the immigrants and also details some of the shipping records. Over 730 names are mentioned. This book is essential reading for the County Limerick researcher. It is available from the Gold Coast City Council Library.

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

St.Patrick's College Maynooth
http://www.may.ie/
telnet://library.may.ie (on-line catalogue)

Trinity College Dublin
http://www.tcd.ie/
telnet://library.tcd.ie/ (on-line catalogue, login name is "opac")

University College Cork
http://www.ucc.ie/
telnet://library.ucc.ie (on-line catalogue)

University College Dublin
http://www.ucd.ie/
telnet://library.ucd.ie (on-line catalogue)

University College Galway
http://www.ucg.ie/
telnet://library.ucg.ie(on-line catalogue, login name is "library")

Irish Academic Press
http://www.iap.ie/index.htm

Diocese of Limerick
http://www.limerick-diocese.org

Diocese of Cork and Ross
http://www.iol.ie/~thefold/dioc.html

1789 Irish Rebellion - Rebels to NSW 1800-1806
http://www.actonline.com.au/~ppmay/

Antrim 1851 census
http;//www.genealogy.org/~liam

Carlow County Genealogy
http://www.worldgenweb.org/ireland/carlow/

Leitrim-Roscommon Homepage
http://www.thecore.com/let_ros/

Roscommon County FHS
http://www.iol.ie/bizpark/c/crrfhs/

Wicklow County Genealogy
http://www.wicklow.ie/1798
http://www.wicklow.ie/index.html

Northern Ireland Genealogy
http://www.n-ireland.co.uk/genealogy/

Tipperary Heritage Unit
http://ireland.iol.ie/~thu/index.html

Grenham's Irish Record Finder
http://indigo.ie/~rfinder

National Library of Ireland
http://www.heanet.ie/natlib/homepage/html

Dublin Heritage Research Group
(Dublin City Public Libraries)
http://iol.ie.resource/dublincitylibrary/frames.htm

Bits and Pieces

"Did you hear the one about the Irish tourist who came to the Gold Coast?"
"He thought that "negative gearing" was putting the car into reverse."

"What's black and blue and found dead floating in the Irish Sea?"
"Tourists who tell Irish jokes in the Belfast Arms."

Computer Corner

I have a full house contents replacement insurance policy and I have just read the fine print.There are some things that are not covered such as my computer. My insurance company assessor tells me that if my computer is valued at more than $3000 then it has to be listed as a separate item. If it is older than three years it is not covered. Software is not covered, irrespective of the age. If your computer is upgraded then the three years will start from the time it was upgraded provided you keep the receipt. So check your policy now.

I have been receiving email attachments written in Word 97. To access the attachment, download a freeware programme which can be found at-: http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/
Everything is then automatic and attachments can be read just like an ordinary email letter.

Gold Goast Irish Interest Group - Club News

Our Xmas party will be held on Saturday 12 December at 12 Noon at Nellie Kelly's, 9 Elkorn Avenue, Surfers Paradise.

Would you like to take part in an Irish beer tasting survey? I have noticed that there are a number of different types of Irish beer available on the Gold Coast so I thought it would be a good time over the Christmas holiday period to check them out. Tasters and car drivers are required, so if you would like to participate, please let me know.

The Sunday meetings for 1999 are 07 February, 04 April, 06 June, 01 August, 03 October, and 05 December at 10.30am. Please bring your lunch.

At the February meeting a paper will be presented entitled " The Family Tree of Robert O'Hara BURKE - Famous Irish - Australian Explorer." This will be followed by a workshop.

Parting Thought

Do you Yahoo?

Merry Xmas and God bless you all

Merv Rossiter
Convenor and Editor
Irish Interest Group
merv@winshop.com.au
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter

Introduction

A Happy New Year to you all. May you all have some success this year finding your Irish ancestors.

This newsletter is the only free Irish internet newsletter in the whole wide world published by a genealogy society. If you would like to submit an article to be published please send me an email.

Saint Patricks Day, Wednesday 17 March, falls between our February and April newsletters so we pay tribute to him in this newsletter

Saint Patrick

Saint Patrick has been credited with converting the Irish people to christianity in the 5th century sometime between AD 432 and AD493. There is no real evidence that supports an actual date.

Much has been written about St.Patrick, some true and some false. What is factual is his written "Confession" and a letter he wrote to Coroticus.

The "Confession" has been translated and can be read on-line at

In 1940 an unusual coincidence took place when Palm Sunday, which is the Sunday before Easter Sunday, occurred on the same day as St.Patrick's Day. The next time it will happen will be in the year 2391 then 2475

"Ned Kelly and Buffalo Bill - The Real McCoy"

This paper was read to the December meeting.

"Recently I received a letter from Tom ROSSITER, a distant "cousin" who lives in Liverpool, but who is descended from the ROSSITERS of Wexford, writing to say that he thought we were related to Ned KELLY and "Buffalo Bill". Buffalo Bill's surname was CODY, the same as Ned KELLY's paternal grandmother. Also the ROSSITERS of Wexford intermarried with the CODYS.

In the light of this information I thought I would do some research to see whether I was related to an Australian bush-ranger or to an American cowboy or to both. It was time to check my ROSSITER records, the local library and the internet.

The Wexford Rowe Street church records show James ROSSITER and Elizabeth CODY having eight children baptised between 1695 and 1706. Then there is a Pierce CODY who married Margaret NEWPORT on the 6th May 1762, the witnesses were Pat ROSSITER and Sarah EUSTACE. Also a William CODY married Margaret LAMBERT on the 9th January 1809 and the witnesses were John CULLEN and Patt ROSSITER. So there was a CODY family well entrenched in Wexford.

John ROSSITER who married Elizabeth CODY was a great grandson of Colonel Thomas ROSSITER who fought against CROMWELL in 1650.

Frank CLUNE in his book called "Ned Kelly" writes that both Ned KELLY and Buffalo Bill stem from the CODY clan of Tipperary in Ireland and that Buffalo Bill may be a nephew of Ned KELLY. Frank CLUNE does not offer any proof of this connection.

In the book "Surnames of Ireland", Edward MacLysaght says that the CODY family were originally named ARCHDEACON and when they came to Kilkenny from England in the 13th century they changed their name to MacODA which became CODY and COADY. Also the name CODD is a variant of CODY and is perculiar to Wexford, also from the 13th century.

It is generally known that Ned KELLY was the son of "Red" John KELLY and Ellen QUINN. John was a convict transported from Ireland to Tasmania in 1842. He was the son of Thomas KELLY and Mary CODY.

So, what is the truth ? What is the "real McCoy".?

The Kelly Family

John KELLY was baptised 20th Febrary 1820 in the village of Moyglass, in the district of Clonbrogan, in Kilarney, County Tipperary. He was the son of Thomas KELLY, a farmer, and Mary CODY.

In 1840 John, who was working as a wood ranger in Kilarney, was arrested and charged with stealing two pigs. On the 1st January 1841 a jury at the Tipperary Assizes found him guilty and he was sentenced to seven years transportation.

John arrived in Hobart, Tasmania aboard the "Prince Regent", a 496 ton barque, on the 2nd January 1842, having left Dublin on the 7th August 1841 along with 182 male convicts. His shipping papers read as follows -: convict number 3428., KELLY, John., trade - labourer., height - 5ft 8ins., age 21., complex - fresh., head - large., hair - reddish., whiskers - reddish., visage - long., forehead - medium height., eyebrows - brown., eyes - blue., nose - large., mouth - medium., chin - medium.

"Red KELLY became a free man on the 1st January 1848, a cerificate was issued to him on the 11th January and his name was published in the Hobart Town Gazette on the 25th January.

John "Red" KELLY went to Melbourne and then on to Wallan Wallan in the Kilmore district, 43 km north of Melbourne on the Sydney road, where he worked as a carpenter. He found gold on the Kilmore goldfield which he invested in a small freehold property at Beveridge.He later sold this property and rented forty acres at Avenel, eighty kms to the north.

John KELLY married Ellen QUINN on the 18th November 1850. They eloped to Melbourne and were married in Saint Francis Roman Catholic Church. The union produced eight children., Mary in 1851, Annie 1853, Edward 1855, Margaret 1857, James 1859, Daniel 1861, Kate 1863, and Grace in 1865.

John "Red" KELLY died on the 27 December 1866 at Avenel aged 46.

In 1874, on the 19th February, Ellen KELLY nee QUINN married again to a George KING who was 17 years her junior and six years older than NED. Ellen died in 1923.

Of the Kelly children, Mary died shortly after birth, Annie married Alexander GUNN, Margaret married William SKILLION, it is thought that James died in 1946, Daniel was killed in the shoot - out at Glenrowan, it is thought that Kate married in 1888 and was accidentally drowned in 1898 in the Forbes River in New South Wales., and it is not known what happened to Grace.

An interesting observation is that it appears that Ned KELLY's birth and his death are not registered with the Victorian government. Ned was hung on the 11th November 1880 at Pentridge Gaol, Melbourne, Victoria.

"Ned" KELLY

Edward KELLY was born in June 1855 at Beveridge in Victoria, Australia, the first son and third child of John KELLY and Ellen QUINN.

In 1860 Ned attended the Church of England School at Avenel. Frank Clune in his book Ned Kelly wrote that "Ned was a bright pupil and a very nice mannered and well-behaved boy at school."

Upon the death of John KELLY in December 1866, Ellen moved the family to Eleven Mile Creek. There was no more schooling for Ned. At the age of twelve he was "the man of the house".

On the 26th October 1869 Ned KELLY, aged 14, was arrested for assault and robbery and after a court hearing he was discharged. During his fourteen years members of his family., ie., the QUINNS, the LLOYDS and the KELLYS were arrested on 20 occasions. His own father John (Red) KELLY was arrested in May 1865 and charged with being in unlawful possession of a hide for which he was fined 25 pounds. It is easy to see how Ned became bitter towards the justice system in Victoria.

It appears that an over zealous and corrupt police force were hell bent on persecuting and wiping out the three families., the KELLYS, the QUINNS, and the LLOYDS.

Ned was arrested again in May 1870 for robbery under arms and discharged. On the following 10th November he was arrested for obscene language and assault and received a three month prison sentence. On the 2nd August 1871 he received a three year sentence for horse stealing and on the 18th September 1877 he was fined $6.10 for being drunk and assaulting the Police.

In 1880 on the 11th November, Ned was executed for outlawry and for the murder of Constable FITZPATRICK. During the 25 short years of his life, 13 members of the three families., the KELLYS, the QUINNS, and the LLOYDS were arrested on 57 separate occasions.

Ned stood for decency and fair play and when he saw the legal system abused he did what any fine Irishman would do., he tried to rectify the problem, but sadly he lost. However his efforts were not in vain. A court enquiry following Ned's death led to immediate improvements in the legal system.

The Quinn Family

James QUINN was born in Ballymena in County Antrim in about 1802, son of Patrick QUINN and Mary McKINLEY. In 1821 he married Mary McCLUSKEY, a Scottish lass 22 years of age.

The family settled at Ballymena where seven children were raised., Patrick b1826, Helen b 1827, John b 1831, Ellen b 1832, Catherine b 1833, Jane b 1837 and William b 1840.

In 1841 James QUINN decided to bring his family to Australia. So the QUINN family consisting of two adults and seven children embarked on the ship"England" which departed Liverpool on the 14th April 1841 and arrived at Port Phillip, Melbourne on the 17th July 1841.

The Quinn family first settled at Pascoe Vale where James was a firewood merchant. In 1845 he rented a small farm at Wallan Wallan. A few years later he purchased 700 acres in the same district and bred and sold cattle and horses.

Three more children were born in Victoria to the QUINN family., William in 1843, Margaret in 1845, and Grace in 1847.

In 1863 James sold the Wallan Wallan property for 2000 pounds and then he purchased "Glemore", 25 thousand acres of timber country on the King River 30 miles from Benalla.

James QUINN died at "Glenmore" on the 22 August 1869 aged 76.

Of the QUINN children, Patrick, aged 25, drowned in 1850 in the Eucha River.
Ellen married firstly John KELLY and secondly George KING
Kate married Jack LLOYD and Jane married Tom LLOYD, brother of Jack.
Margaret married Pat QUINN. (no relation)

Buffalo Bill

"Buffalo Bill" was a United States Army Scout, Indian fighter, and buffalo hunter. His father died in 1857, so at the age of eleven, Buffalo Bill found work as a mounted messenger in Kansas for a wagon-freight firm. He served in the American Civil War from 1861 to 1865. After the war, from 1866 to 1867, he became a civilian scout for the U.S.Army. From 1867 to 1868 he hunted buffalo to feed construction crews on the Union Pacific Railroad. This is when he gained fame as a buffalo hunter. From 1868 to 1876 he worked for the U.S.Fifth Cavalry as a scout and guide. In 1883 he organised his first Wild West exhibition. He remained in show business until just before his death in 1917.

His real name was William Frederick CODY, born 26 February 1846, Le Clair, Scott County, Iowa, USA., son of Issac and Mary Ann CODY nee LAYCOCK.

There were seven children in the family., Martha, Samuel, Julia, William, Eliza, Helen and May. Samuel died at the age of seven, crushed by his horse. Helen, who became Helen Cody WETMORE wrote a book in 1899 about her brother William (alias Buffalo Bill), called "Last of the Great Scouts".

This book can be read on-line at -:

http:raven.cc.ukans.edu/carrie/kancoll/books/cody/

It is from this book that we learn of the CODY family tree, a family whose origin stems from Raulin Le CAUDE who was born in 1500 on the Island of Jersey, off the coast of England. Helen writes that most of the historical information was passed on to her by her grandmother Lydia MARTIN.

Several of the CODY family emigrated to America in 1747 settling in Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. Phillippe Le CAUDE (CODY), born in 1668., William's great great great grandfather would have arrived in Massachusetts from the Island of Jersey sometime between the years 1692 and 1743.

Buffalo Bill CODY was awarded the Medal of Honour in 1872. This award was revoked in 1916 because he was not an officer or an enlisted man in the U.S. Army. Scouts were classified as civilians. The US army restored the Medal of Honour to CODY posthumously in 1989.

William Frederick CODY alias Buffalo Bill married Louise FREDERICI on the 6th March 1866 at Saint Louis in Missouri. He died on the 10th January 1917 in Denver, Colorado.

Sad to say, Buffalo Bill does not appear to be related to the CODY families of Ireland.

Conclusion

I have not been able to find any information on Mary CODY, paternal grandmother of Ned KELLY. Whether Mary is a Wexford CODD or CODY or a Tipperary CODY, I do not know. Also I have not been able to find details of a KELLY family or a CODY family that were ensconced in Tipperary. Therefore I do not know if Ned KELLY is related to the ROSSITER family of Wexford. The research goes on.

What I do know is that Ned KELLY and Buffalo Bill CODY are not related.

Ned KELLY was hanged in Pentridge Gaol in Melbourne at 10.am on the 11th November 1880. Today, many Australians still mourn his death. One hour later, the country stops again to commemorate the end of World War One, (11 November 1918) for this is Rememberance Day. Such is the Australian way of life.

Further Reading

"Ned Kelly" by Frank Clune
"Ned Kelly" by George Farwell
"The Lives and Legends of Buffalo Bill" by Don Russell

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

Irish Placenames
http://www.thecore.com/cgi-bin/ire-srch

Irish Directories
http://www.irish-times.com/ancestor/browse/records/directories/index.htm

Ireland BDM Exchange
http://ghn.genealogy.org

Irish Genealogical Homepage
http://idt.net/~unatg/

Limerick On-line
http://www.limerickonline.com/genealogy/

Louth On-line
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~dkerr

Belfast Telegraph Online
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

Westmeath Examiner
http://www.westmeath-examiner.ie/Letters-Comp/Letters-Comp1.html

Limerick Leader
http://www.indigo.ie/webnet/leader/index

Munster Express
http://www.munster-express.ie

An Phoblacht/Reublican News
http://irlnet.com/aprn

The Irish News
http://www.irishnews.com/

The Irish Times Corner
http://www.irish-times.com

Irish Convicts Transported to Australia
http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts

"All Ireland Sources Newsletter"

Terry Eakin has published his second newsletter.(vol 1, no.2 December 1998) If you would like a copy please email Terry at <teakin@chilli.net.au>

In this newsletter he writes about the "Registry of Deeds" and "Land Records."

Book Review

"Round Ireland With a Fridge" by Tony Hawkes

This is supposed to be a story about Tony Hawkes who gets drunk and has a bet for 100 pounds that he can hitch-hike around the circumference of Ireland carrying a fridge. On the way he has to go to Tory Island off the north-west coast and Clear Island off the south-east coast. By the way, the fridge cost him 130 pounds.

In reality, this is a story about a frigid pommy git, who of all things is a Middlesborough soccer team supporter, who pub crawls around Ireland with his "mo chuisneoir" named "saiorse" trying to score with the ladies. In Ballina he becomes infatuated with Roisin., in Cork he is too drunk to form a relationship with Mary, and in Wexford he trys to make love to Karen in a dog kennel. Tony fails on each occasion. The only thing he succeeds in is winning his bet.

This book is a humorous travelogue and is available from the Gold Coast City Library.

Bits and Pieces

Q. What do you call a group of Irishmen in the middle of a paddock?
A. A thicket

Q. What do you call a group of Irishmen standing in a circle holding hands?
A. A dope ring

Computer Corner

To download freeware and shareware programmes go to Dave Central's site at -:
http://www.davecentral.com

"Genealogy via the Internet" by Ralph Roberts., pub 1997 by Alexander Books @North Carolina
ISBN 1-57090-009-4. Available from Gold Coast Library 929.102.85.ROB

The weekly journal "P.C.Know How" Part 35 has a very good article on Palmtop PCs

The Australian monthly magazine "PC@UTHORITY" January 1999 issue has a very good article on flatbed scanners.

To find people researching the same name as you go to the Rootsweb site at -:
http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi

To find webpages for the surnames you are researching go to the web ferret site at -:
http://www.ferretsoft.com

Gold Coast Irish Interest Group - Club News

At our December meeting members agreed to subscribe to the journal "The Irish at Home and Abroad". and to purchase the book "Researching Your Dublin Ancestors"

Our Xmas lunch at "Nelly Kellys" was very enjoyable. The most popular dish was the fish in an Irish beer batter for $6.00. If you would like to go there for lunch on St.Patricks Day please let me know. If you would like to go to the Casino for an evening meal please let me know also.

The next meeting is scheduled for Sunday 04 April which is Easter Sunday.

Parting Thought

I prefer digging in the past to digging in the back yard.

Merv Rossiter
Convenor
Irish Interest Group
merv@winshop.com.au
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter

Editorial

Recently, Gerry ADAMS visted Australia, a visit that was shrouded in controversy, a visit that divided Australians and a visit where the Prime Minister of Australia, John HOWARD refused to meet Mr ADAMS, and in my opinion, rightly so.

Mr ADAMS came to Brisbane and spoke at a luncheon hosted by the Queensland Irish Association. It was only a few years ago that two men from Brisbane were murdered by the IRA in Amsterdam while on holiday. They had been mistaken for off-duty British soldiers.

Will it ever happen again? Yes, I believe it will, but probably in a different place. Until Mr ADAMS supports the disarmament of the IRA, atrocities will continue.

It is by deeds that we judge a fellow human being. Mr ADAMS needs to prove his sincerity by deeds and not words before he gets my vote of approval.

Merv Rossiter
Editor

Note. This editorial in no way reflects the opinion of the Irish Interest Group or the Gold Coast and Albert Genealogical Society.

Robert O'Hara BURKE

Robert O'Hara BURKE was a famous Irish-Australian explorer who in 1860, became the first person to walk from south to north across Australia a distance of over 2600 kms. Sadly, he perished on the return journey. Burke had left Melbourne on the 20th August 1860 and reached the Gulf of Carpentaria on the 11th February 1861 then died on the return journey on the 1st or 2nd of July 1861.

The BURKE families can trace their descent from Pepin le VIEUX, Duke of Anstrasia who lived in AD 622 in what is now France.

Robert de BURGH came to England with WILLIAM the CONQUEROR in 1066. In 1170 William Fitz-Andelm de BURGO fought alongside STRONGBOW in the Anglo Norman invasion of Ireland. In 1179 HENRY II granted the entire province of Connaught to William de BURGO and his heirs. In c1231 the Fort of Galway was captured by William's son Richard de BURGO.

Robert O'Hara BURKE was descended from Sir Richard De BURGO, who led the Anglo-Norman invasion of Connacht in the thirteenth century. Sir Ulick de BURGH founded Issercleran Castle in County Galway in 1308. The BURKE family retained Issercleran, or St.Clerans as it became known, for about six hundred years.

Robert's great great grandfather was John BURKE of Issercleran who married Jane BURKE of Cloghanover. Their son was James BURKE, the first protestant of the family who changed the name of the family estate from Isserleran to St Clearans. He married Penelope HARDIMAN, (c1755), the daughter of a very wealthy merchant, Robert HARDIMAN of Loughrea. Their eldest son, John BURKE inherited his grandfather's fortune which included a Jamaican sugar plantation.

John BURKE, Robert's grandfather, married Elizabeth ARMSTRONG in 1785. He died in 1808, nearly bankrupt. His eldest son, also named James Hardiman BURKE, inherited St.Clerans and saved the estate from financial ruin by marrying into the O'HARA family

James Hardiman BURKE jnr married Anne O'HARA, the third daughter of Robert O'HARA who in the 1790's had purchased the Raheen estate of the Killikellys. James and Anne had three sons and four daughters., John Hardiman, Robert O'Hara, James Thomas, Fanny, Elizabeth, Hester Albinia and Anne Celestine BURKE.

John Hardiman BURKE died unmarried in 1863. James Thomas BURKE was killed in Turkey in 1854. Fanny married John BLAKENEY of Abbert. Hester died unmarried in 1866. Anne married Major Horace De VERE who eventually inherited St.Clerans.

References

"Fifty Famous Australians" by Professor G.V.Portus
"Burke and Wills - From Melbourne to Myth" by Tim Bonyhady
"The Shimmering Waste-The Life and Times of Robert O'Hara Burke" by William Henry.
A review of this book can be read on-line at

http://www.kennys.ie/resource/kennys/bibliophile/1998/05/

This review was read to the February meeting.

This review is in actual fact, a supplement to the book as it provides additional information ie., there is very full information on the O'HARA family of Galway.

John KING

John KING was the only survivor of the Burke and Wills expedition that completed the full return journey. In William HENRY's book we read a little of KING's life.

John KING
born : 1838 Moy, County Tyrone
father : Henry KING, a soldier in the 95th Highlanders
mother : Ellen KING nee ORN
married : September 1871 Melbourne
spouse : Mary RICHMOND nee BUNTING
died : 15 Jan 1872 St.Kilda

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

Irish Newspapers on-line

Clare Champion
http://www.clarechampion.ie

Donegal News
http://www.donegalnews.com

Fermanagh Herald
http://www.fermanaghherald.com

Galway Advertiser
http://www.galwayadveriser.ie

Kerry's Eye
http://www.kerryseye.com

The Kingdom
http://www.inkerry.com/kingdom.htm

Limerick Post
http://www.limerickpost.ie

Mayo News
http://www.mayonews.ie/current/index.tmpl

Nationalist and Leinster Times
http://www.lowwwe.com/nationalist

Northside People
http://www.northsidepeople.ie

Tallaght Echo
http://www.tallaght.com/theecho

Tirconaill Tribune
http://www.tirconaill-tribune.com

Waterford Today
http://www.waterford-net.ie/today

People Newspapers (Wexford People; Wicklow People; Carlow People; Bray People; .................................Enniscorthy Guardian; and New Ross Standard)
http://www.peoplenews.ie

Book Review

"S'pose I Die" by Hector Holthouse published by Angus and Robertson ISBN 0 207 18764 9

This is an Australian story about an English girl, Evelyn EVANS who marrys Charles MAUNSELL in Cairns in northern Queensland in 1912. They lived on an out-back homestead and cattle property.

The MAUNSELL family were from Ballybrood in County Limerick in Ireland. It has been written that they can trace their roots back to Philip MANSEL who had been cup bearer to William the Conqueror in 1066

Samuel and Phoebe MAUNSELL and their family left Ballybrood in 1858 and settled in Brimbin, on the Manning River in New South Wales, Australia. Their eldest son, Samuel George, who was born in 1839, was Charles MAUNSELL's father.

In 1921 Charles and Evelyn returned to Ballybrood for a holiday. It was here that their son Ronald was conceived.

This is a rivetting story about early life on a remote cattle property in Northern Queensland flavoured with a wee bit of Irish history.

Bits and Pieces

Patrick and Michael were taking a stroll. "At my funeral" says Patrick, "I want you to pour a bottle of Irish whiskey over me grave."
"I'll be glad to," says Michael "But do you mind if I pass it through my kidneys first."

Computer Corner

Telnet. A Telnet programme allows on-line access to library catalogues around the world. A good programe is "Simple Term."

To download this programme go to Netscape and then http://www.shareware.com and search for "telnet"
Look for the filename sptn 1609.zip - sunsite.anu.edu.au
Instal file
To configure to Netscape, go to options, then general preferences, then apps, then telnet application, type in c:\SimpleTerm\sptnet16.exe
click browse.

To use programme., go into Netscape., click file, go to open location, type in URL., ie for Trinity College Dublin type <telnet://library.tcd.ie> login type <opac>

Hytelnet has a world wide telnet directory at
http://www.lights.com/hytelnet
The University of Queensland have a library directory at
http://www.library.uq.edu.au/ssah/jeast/

Dublin City University
telnet://library.duc.ie
login - opac

Trinity College Library, Dublin
telnet://library.tcd.ie/
login - opac

St Patrick's College Maynooth
telnet://library.may.ie

University College Cork
telnet://library.ucc.ie

University College Dublin
telnet://library.ucd.ie

University College Galway
telnet://library.icg.ie
login - library

Kennys Bookshop, Galway, Ireland

http://www.kennys.ie/
email -: queries@kennys.ie

Kennys have a hompage for book reviews and essays written by "The Bibliophile". Here is a list of what is available on-line as of April 1999.

August 1997
The Life and Times of Richard Kirwin, Scientist and Eccentric - Part One (an essay)
http://www.kennys.ie/resource/kennys/bibliophile/1997/08/

September 1997
The Life and Times of Richard Kirwin, Scientist and Eccentric
....................Part Two : The Gentry of 18th Century Ireland (an essay)
http://www.kennys.ie/resource/kennys/bibliophile/1997/09/

October 1997
The Life and Times of Richard Kirwin, Scientist and Eccentric - Part Three (an essay)
http://www.kennys.ie/resource/kennys/bibliophile/1997/10/

November 1997
Looking For Beckett (an essay)
http://www.kennys.ie/resource/kennys/bibliophile/1997/11/

December 1997
A Sad Farwell to the Reading Room in the British Museum (an essay)
http://www.kennys.ie/resource/kennys/bibliophile/1997/12/

May 1998
"The Shimmering Waste, The Life and Times of Robert O'Hara Burke" by William HENRY
A book review.
http://www.kennys.ie/resource/kennys/bibliophile/1998/05/

June 1998
"The Silk Weaver" by Gabrielle WARNOCK (a book review)
http://www.kennys.ie/resource/kennys/bibliophile/1998/06/

August 1998
"The Williamite War in Ireland, 1668 - 1681" by Richard DOHERTY (a book review)
http//www.kennys.ie/resource/kennys/bibliophile/1998/08/

All Ireland Sources Newsletter

Terry Eakin's newsletter no.5 is now available free by email. If you would like a copy, email Terry at

Gold Coast Irish Interest Group - Club News

The next meeting will be held on April 11. Please note change of date.

My thanks to those members who attended "Nellie Kellys" for lunch on St.Patricks Day.

It has been suggested that we have a mid year Xmas party on Friday 25th June at D'Arcy Arms so come to the next meeting and have your say.

Parting Thought

I prefer the "Irish Times"
It's not too hard on the buttocks. 

Merv Rossiter
Convenor and editor for the Irish Interest Group

merv@winshop.com.au
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter (personal homepage)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/ (Rossiter newsletter including the Irish Corner)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/mottos.htm (Irish family mottos)

Editorial

This is newsletter Number Six, the first one was published in August 1998. I wrote in the February issue that this is the only free on-line Irish newsletter published by a Genealogy Society and this statement has still gone un-challenged. Are there any challengers?

First Free Irish Immigrants to Australia

The first convict ship to sail direct from Ireland was the "Queen" in the Third Fleet. She departed Cork in April 1791 and arrived Sydney 27 September 1791. On board were 133 male convicts and 22 female convicts. Seven males died during the voyage.

A convict who had been transported to Australia could apply, usually after serving four years of his sentence, for his spouse and their children to be sent to Australia.

The first ship to sail direct from Ireland with free immigrants was the "Thames" which departed Cork on the 20th September 1825 and arrived Sydney 15th April 1826. On board were 41 wives and 109 children of convicts or emancipated convicts who had applied to have them sent out. Sixteen deaths were recorded., three women and thirteen children

The "Sydney Gazette" of Wednesday April 12 reported on the arrival of the 'Thames".

"Yesterday, arrived the ship Thames, Captain Robert FRAZER, with stores for the Government. She sailed from Cork the 14th Nov, from Teneriffe the 29th Nov and from Pernambuco, 11th January last. By this conveyance are forwarded 37 women, the wives of free men and prisoners who bring along with them 107 children. We are sorry to say that three women and 13 children died on the passage.

Passengers, Mr RAYMOND, Mrs RAYMOND, 9 children and Mr James RICHARDS, sadler. Surgeon Superintendent Dr.LINTON, R.N.

A research paper on the "Thames" and her passengers is being prepared.

See also Peter Mayberry's homepage 1798 Irish Rebellion - Rebels to NSW 1800 to 1806

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

Top 101 Irish Sites = http://www.iol.ie/~kasst/in2ireland/
Ireland = http://www.ireland.com/
Irish Domain Search = http://www.iesearch.com/
Ireland Search = http://www.local.ie/
Irish Government Info = http://www.irlgov.ie/
Swift Guide to Irish = http://swift.kerna.ie/
Infosite Ireland = http://www.infosites.net/
Access Ireland = http://www.visunet.ie
Ask Ireland = http://www.askireland.com/
Irish Directory = http://doras.tinet.ie/Doras.nsf/Index

BUSINESS INFO

Business Contacts = http://www.enterprise-ireland.com
Commerce Ireland = http://www.commerce.ie/
Irish Trade Web = http://www.itw.ie/
Irish Business Web = http://webfinder.business.ie/
Listing of Irish Companies = http://www.kompass.ie/
Irish Business = http://www.irishbusiness.ie
Irish Trade = http://www.irish-trade.ie/

My thanks to Eamon Fogarty eamonfog@indigo.ie for sending the above information

Shamrock Homepage
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~lfrost/Homepage/Shamrock.htm

Dun Laoghaire Genealogical Society (on the coast east of Dublin)
http://www.dun-laoghaire.com/genealogy
email -: digs@iol.ie
They have a newsletter which unfortunately is not free.

Book Review

"Near Restful Waters - The Augustinians in Co.Wexford" by Thomas C Butler, O.S.A. Published by the Good Counsel Press, Ballyboden, Dublin 14

This book looks at the origins of the Augustinian Order which was in Hippo in North Africa and in 1256 came to Clomines and New Ross in Wexford Ireland with the help of the Norman knights. It then traces the development of the order through to modern times.

The history of the Order is interwoven with the history of New Ross. Modern New Ross was founded by William MARSHALL, Earl of Pembroke in the 1300's. There is a map of New Ross dated 1699 on pages 88 and 89.

A great book for anyone researching Wexford County.

Bits and Pieces

Irish family motto

McCarthy ......forti et fideli nil difficile.........over forty, fidelity not difficult.

For more mottos go to -:
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/mottos.htm

Computer Corner

Sites to Download Programmes From - Free

Dave Central
http://www.davecentral.com

Microsoft Internet Explorer
http://www.microsoft.com/
http://www.microsoft.com/ie

Netscape
http://www.netscape.com/

Office programmes., e.g. Word 97
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/

Shareware
http://www.shareware.com

Tucows
http://www.tucows.com

Download
http://www.download.com/

If you are travelling to Ireland (or anywhere else in the world), and you want to check on your email at home then use a free service such as-:

http://www.thatweb.com

Saint Molly's Day

Molly Malone was buried in Dublin 13th June 1699 aged 29. So on Sunday 13th June 1999 Irish people around the world will commemorate the 300th anniversary of her death probably with a feed of cockles and mussels washed down with a wee drop of guiness.

As for your editor, he will be having some New Zealand green lipped mussels lightly poached in white wine and washed down with a glass of black velvet (50-50 guiness and champagne)

An extra verse -:

Irish Interest Group - Club News

Our guest speaker at the April meeting was Gold Coast resident, Patrick Scallon, a life member of the Gold Coast Irish Association. Patrick was born in Galway in 1934 and graduated as a civil engineer. He spoke about family history and heraldry and answered many questions.

The Irish Civil Registration birth marriages and death indexes are available until 31 July 1999 at the Mormon Church Research Centre, Isle of Capri, Gold Coast.

Boxing Day in June (not to be confused with Christmas in July)
A luncheon will be held on Saturday 26 June 1999 at "Nellie Kellys", 9 Elkhorn Ave, Surfers Paradise, meeting at 11.00am. Please contact me to secure your seat.

The next meeting is Sunday June 06th at 10.30. This will be the last for this financial year so subscriptions for 1999-2000 are now due.

Parting Thought

"The more I see of people, the more I love my Irish terrier"

Merv Rossiter
Convenor and editor for the Irish Group
merv@winshop.com.au
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter

Zorro was an Irishman

Thanks to the curiosity of an Italian professor, unknown facts on a personnage that all thought to be a legend have come to light. "El Zorro" , as we now learn, was an Irishman who worked as a spy and who died in Mexico under the Inquisition. Professor Fabio Transcarelli´s discovery unveils the fact that the real "El Zorro" was far more interesting a person than the "El Zorro" of movie fame. Once again, reality surpasses fiction and history outdoes legend.

The University of Viterbo professor is an expert in the history of witchcraft and the Inquisition. In his diggings into the archives of Dublin, Madrid, Mexico, and The Vatican, he bumped into a very real and very fascinating individual who in no way ressembles the Antonio Banderas or Douglas Fairbanks protrayals. He discovers the real "El Zorro" , named William Lamport. Born into a noble Irish family in Wexport, Ireland in 1615, Lamport was of red beard and possessed a Celtic air. Like many who conduct historical research, Professor Transcarelli came across the "El Zorro" personnage by chance. He tells about his chance findings in the Italian newspaper "La Republica": "I was studying a trial that took place in 1642 when I bumped into the name William Lamport. It fascinated me. I discovered that his fame was very much alive up through the 19th century in Central America. I was able to trace him to a book that a Mexican army general named Vicente Palacio Riva wrote. Palacio Rivas had decided to write a historic novel along the lines of an Alexandre Dumas novel, which he entitled "Memories of an Imposter", based on biographical materials that he had surrupticiously laid his hands on in the Holy Inquisition archives and which he managed to lift from the archives and take home ".

Professor Transcarelli researched the same archives and today, thanks to his efforts, we know a lot about this fascinating person. Young Lamport studied in the prestigious schools and colleges of Dublin and London. He later took up a life of adventure together with various individuals of all different walks of life. This led him to France and then to Spain where he got caught up in things Spanish and so decides to stay on in Spain. Here it was that he changed his name to Guillén Lombardo, became well known for his bravery in fighting the French, and fell into the graces and favors of the Count Duque de Olivares.

By now Lombardo was already a gifted swordsman and an unrepentant Don Juan. His sword duels were as numerous as his lovers. He took up an idylic romance with Ana de Leiva, daughter of an important family of Spanish nobility, who is seduced by Lombardo´s attentions. But the family are not quite so charmed by this swordsman-seducer. They chase him down, forcing him to flee to Mexico to save his life.

Once in Mexico, "El Zorro" becomes a spy in the services of Count Duque de Olivares who continues to give him his favors and trust. As with any good spy, Lombardo leads a double life: by day he is a Latin professor, engaged to the very noble and virtuous lady, Doña Antonia Turcios. By night he transforms into "El Zorro" and is the spy, the astrologer, the witch´s apprentice, going about with the Indian witch doctors and mostly being the lover of the most beautiful and distinguished ladies of the Viceroyship (Virreinato). According to a confidential letter that the Archbishop of the City (Mexico City) sent to the king of Spain in 1647, one of Lombard´s lovers was the daughter of the very Viceroy himself.

But not all ends well: the Inquisition discovers his contact with the Indians and, suspecting him of plotting an uprising, he is arrested. Thus begins the endless case against Guillén Lombardo who later passes into legend as "El Zorro".

After ten years in prison, Lombardo escapes and begins an incredibly brave life in freedom, one that begins the authentic life of "El Zorro".

He becomes a knight-errant provocateur who like a phantom in the night roams the cities, wreaking of vengeance. He mocks the soldiers with their beards and posts anti-Inquisition flyers wherever he goes, denouncing their atrocities. He is rearrested after seven years and this time condemned to burn at the stake. But, is it possible for this person who has scoffed at entire armies and the Inquisition for so many years, and who has become a very symbol of the fight against injustice, to die at the stake? As the executioners prepare to set the blaze to Lombardo´s feet, Guillén Lombardo - "El Zorro" - strangles himself with one of the cords that are holding him to the stake. When his executioners draw near to burn him alive, the condemned man is already dead.

Once again "El Zorro" has made a mockery of his enemies. In 1659 he passes into legend and two centuries later,(in 1872) the general Vincente Palacio Riva names him "Diego de la Vega" in his novel, the same name which appears in the movie script written by a New York journalist in 1912. A year later, Hollywood produces the film starring Douglas Fairbanks as "El Zorro" and "El Zorro" becomes a worldwide movie smash, portraying the galant swordsman who captures the hearts and minds of the people.

This fascination of people with "El Zorro" is very much alive today, witness the great success Antonio Banderas has had in bringing to life this masked personnage who, in real life, was far more interesting that anything that Hollywood scriptwriters have ever invented.

From the newspaper "El Universal" - Mexico City, Saturday 05 June 1999

Further reading -: "Zorro Unmasked - The Official History" by Sandra Curtis pub. Hypernion, New York

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

The TIARA website has moved to
http://tiara.ie

Irish Surnames
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/6108/surnames.html

McFadden Homepage
http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/c/f/Patrick--T-Mcfadden/

County Limerick genealogy
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/6108/limerick.htm

Alan Tupman's Irish Page
http://freespace.virgin.net/alan.tupman/sites/irish.htm

Irish Telephone book on-line
http://www.goldenpages.ie/

Patrick HOGAN (researcher)
http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/strand/7/
phogan@iol.ie

Chicago Irish Families, 1830-1900
http:// www.IHAonline.com/chicago.htm

Four Courts Press
http://www.four-courts-press.ie

Familia
http://www.earl.org.uk/familia/services/eire_cork_city.html

OS maps from OS office Ireland
http://www.irlgov.ie/osi/Pages/maps/mindex.htm

Bookmark of the Month Review

Guide to the National Archives of Ireland Centre for Irish Genealogical and Local Studies http://homepage.tinet.ie/~seanjmurphy/nai

The following subjects are covered in this web-page

The Centre for Irish Genealogical and Local Studies Finding Aids and Reference Material

Courts and Probate Registries The Former State Paper Office Church of Ireland Government Departments Public Offices General Register Office

and many others.

Researchers should download this web-page for future reference.

Book Review

"John Stanilaus Joyce - The Voluminous Life and Genius of James Joyce's Father." by John Wyse Jackson with Peter Costello., pub Fourth Estate London 240x160x 494pages, hard-cover

This is the essential Joyce encyclopedia written for the family historian. Contains everything you wish to know about the Joyce families.

Available from the Gold Coast City Council library

Irish Church Records

If you want to know where the church records for your ancestors in Ireland are held then write to one of the following places.

For Church of Ireland

The Representative Church Body
Braemor Park
Rathgar
Dublin

For Roman Catholic

Catholic Communications Centre
Veritas House
7-8 Lower Abby Street
Dublin 1

Bits and Pieces

For sale - antique desk., just right for genealogy work for a lady with thick legs and large drawers.

On the 14th April 1912, in the early hours of the morning, four Irishmen were playing bridge. When Paddy picked his cards up he was over the moon to find that he had been dealt the Ace, King Queen, of spades., the Ace, King, Queen of hearts., the Ace, King, Queen of diamonds and the Ace, King, Queen, Jack of clubs. Paddy opened the bidding with seven no-trumps. Quite naturally the other players did not bid. Unfortunately Paddy didn't make his contract. He was on the "Titanic."

Gleanings from the Internet

Two discussion topics in the newsgroups recently were Oyster stew and Black Irish. Neither subject was dealt with adequately so after some research I present my findings.

Oyster Stew

Fish and seafood often figured in the Christmas Eve feast in the days when religious observance forbade meat before the great day.

2 dozen oysters 1oz/ 25g/ 2tbsp butter 1/2oz/ 14g/ 2tbsp flour 11/2pt/ 850ml/ 3cups milk 5fl oz/ 140ml/ 2/3cup cream freshly-grated nutmeg cayenne pepper lemon juice salt butter (optional)

Open oysters and reserve their strained liquor. Melt butter over gentle heat and stir in flour. Gradually add milk, stir until smooth and add cream. Allow to reach simmering point and season with nutmeg, cayenne and a little lemon juice. Add oysters and their liquor, taste for seasoning and add salt if necessary. Heat just until oysters are warm through and serve immediately with little pats of butter floating on top, if liked.

I found over 400 recipes for Oyster stew by using the search engine - "Ask Jeeves" (Ed.)

Black Irish

I have found five definitions

(1) People of mixed blood off-spring of the 17th century Irish emigrants and African slaves who lived on the Island of Montserrat in the West Indies, (known as the Emerald Isle of the Caribbean), were known as Black Irish

(2) The English who had to fight to settle in Ireland said the Irish had black hearts - meaning brutal in battle. So Irish soldiers were refered to as Black Irish.

(3) Black Irish is a derogatory term describing the Protestants of Ireland.

(4) Black Irish may refer to Irish people with Spanish blood in their veins and with Spanish features i.e. dark hair.

(5) Black Irish may refer to an Irish man who is a member of the Orange order who has then qualified for the Purple Marksman degree followed by the Royal Black Institution degree. This Institution was established in 1792. For more information go to -:

http://homepages.iol.ie/~pfc/loyal.html

This information was found by using the search engine "Ask Jeeves" which can be found at http://www.askjeeves.com

Irish Civil Registration

Civil registration of births and deaths began in Ireland in 1864., protestant marriages in 1845 and catholic marriages in 1864. The surnames are listed in chronological and alphabetical order with page and volume index numbers for each surname. Up to and including 1877 all names are shown for each year. From 1878 all names are grouped in quarters for each year. The quarter must be listed when applying for a certificate.

What is important for researchers is that the death indexes are available on 35mm film from the LDS and the age at death is also shown.

Computer Corner

Get your photos on floppy at National Photos

http://www.national-photos.com.au

To "scan" a micofiche, first put it in a fiche reader then take a photo of it with a digital camera then you have the fiche on floppy.

When up-grading your homepage and sometimes when you click on the reload or refresh icon and nothing happens then hold down the shift key and click on refresh or reload.

Gold Coast Irish Interest Group - Group News

Next meetings -:
1st August - annual meeting - Workshop., Finding Your Irish Ancestors in Liverpool
3rd October., Workshop., Finding Your Irish Ancestors in London
5th Dec - Christmas Party

Parting Thought

"Well-behaved women rarely make history."

Merv Rossiter
Convenor and Editor
Irish Interest Group
merv@winshop.com.au
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter

August 1999

Introduction

The World Rugby Union Tournament is now underway in Ireland. Your editor wagers a pint of Guinness to all takers that Australia will not win the championship. Please confirm your bet by writing to me in Gaelic.

Thaddeus O'KANE - 1820 to 1890

"One of the most independent journalists who ever trod Australian soil."

Timothy Joseph (aka Thaddeus) O'Kane was born 24 January 1820 at Dingle, County Kerry, Ireland, son of Gregory O'Kane and his wife Johanna O'Kane nee Fraimes. He was educated at Maynooth College. He studied to be a Priest but instead, became a journalist in London. He claimed to have married the actress Margaret Matilda Augusta Morris on the 2nd July 1851. They had four daughters and one son. In October 1863 he implemented divorce proceedings alleging that his wife had committed adultery with Lord Palmerston. The case was withdrawn in February 1864. O'Kane then took the first name Thadeus and sailed for Australia

He became a sub editor for the Northern Australian in Ipswich in 1865 then he went to Rockhampton we he sub-edited the Morning Bulletin. In 1873 he edited The Northern Miner in Charters Towers and became sole owner on the 12th January 1874. He remained editor until five months before his death at Ipswich on the 17th May 1890.

O'Kane wrote with a vitriolic pen. He lost count of the number of libel actions he faced. In 1878 he described his rival paper as "a collection of lies and hoodlum scurrility." In the same year the Ipswich Observer said that The Northern Miner has "a terror to humbug and rascality generally on Charters Towers." In 1882 the Bulletin said that "O'Kane is still game as a bull-dog, as bitter as gall, as relentless as a savage, and as truthful as it is possible to be in North Queensland." Also, O'Kane was once referred to as "the best radical in North Queensland."

Further reading - "The Australian Dictionary of Biography" "The Northern Miner" 13 Aug 1985, p3

(My thanks to Mick Webb (member no.415) for contributing to this article. Ed)

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

Irish Surnames
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/6108/surnames.htm

Antrim surname database
http://genealogy.org/~liam

Antrim Surname List
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldub/antrim/antrimsr.htm

Cork Surnames
http://homepages.iol.ie/~irishrts/CorkNames.html

Down County Surnames
http://www.amitar.com.au/~deel/downlist.htm

Galway Surnames
http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~quibellg/galway.htm

Limerick surname queries
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/6108/limerick.htm

Mayo Surname List
http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/genuki/SurnamesList/MAY.html

Tyrone Surname List
http://pw2.netcom.com/~vanessa1/tyrone.html

Irish Ancestors
http://www.irish-times.com/ancestor/index.html

Irish churches
http://www.ireland.anglican.org/

Irish Links
http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/irelinks.htm

Irish RC Parishes
http://www.sci.net.au/mgrogan

Representative Church Body
http://www.ireland.anglican.org/library.html

Church of Ireland Parish registers held in the RCB
http://www.ihaonline.com/rcbl.htm

The Irish Ancestral Research Association
Dept. W,
P.O. Box 619,
Sudbury, MA 01776
http://tiara.ie

The Armagh Five - Irish Ribbonmen in Tasmania - 1840 to 1850

The Armagh Five were John Brady, Henry Hughes, James McCone, Hugh O'Hare, and John Rice who were all transported to Tasmania arriving in 1843 on the "Navarino". An excellent article can be found on-line at

http://www.jcu.edu.au/aff/history/article/kennam.htm

Ribbonism was a catholic association organised in Ireland about 1808. Its two main objects were -: (1) to secure “fixity of tenure,” called the tenant-right; and
(2) to deter anyone from taking land from which a tenant has been ejected. The name arises from a ribbon worn as a badge in the button-hole.

Book Reviews

(1) A good factual read is Thomas Pakenham's "The Year of Liberty", subtitled "The History of the Great Irish Rebellion of 1798" This book of 416 pages is valuable to the family historian because of the end notes and the references to sources of information, e.g.., location of manuscripts and other books containing research material. (Your editor has a copy in his personal library - lookups available upon request.)

(2) "Irish Women in Colonial Australia" edited by Trevor McClaughlin Irish women were the majority of female convicts and they were a large percentage of the free and assisted immigrants. There are nine essays covering the broad spectrum of Irish women in Australia which gives a fascinating account of their lives. This book is available from the Gold Coast City Council Library.

"Flight of the Earls" Heritage Centre in Rathmullan, Donegal.

On the 14th September 1607, Rory O'Donnell and Hugh O'Neill, along with about 97 people left Rathmullan bound for Spain. The group included O'Neills, O'Donnells, O'Gallaghers, Maguires, McDevitts, McAwards, Plunketts, McSweeneys, O'Keenans, Tullys and McGuinness's. On the 30 September, as they were approaching Corunna in northern Spain, they were blown off course along the French coast into the Channel. They landed at Quillebeuf, near Le Havre. The French King of the time didn't want to upset the English King and wouldn't let them travel through France to Spain - he sent them to the French Netherlands and they worked their way eventually to Rome in April 1608. They left people at various places along the way too - 20 children and carers at Louvain, 23 men to join the Irish Regiment of the Spanish Army, and 17 priests and clerical students at Irish colleges at Douai and Louvain. The rest consisted of 32 men on horseback and some women, travelling in a carriage. Thirty reached Rome.

Rory O'Donnell died in Rome the following year and Hugh O'Neill spent the rest of his life in Rome, where he never ceased writing to the Spanish King beseeching him to send an army to Ireland. Hugh died in July 1616.

Bits and Pieces

No Irish Need apply
Whoever wrote this sign wrote it well
For the same sign hangs on the gates of hell
No Irish need apply

LDS Microfiche

#1440,939 - #1440,943 "Manuscript Sources for the "History of Irish Civilisation" by Richard J Hayes

#0924,648 Census of Ireland 1659 and Poll Money Ordinances" collected by Seamas Pender

Computer Corner

Personal Ancestral File (PAF) 4.0 (Windows) is available for download from -: http://www.familysearch.org

Irish Congress

The 4th Irish Genealogical Conference will be held in Dublin in 2001

Gleanings From the Internet

The book, "The Royal Irish Constabulary; a Short History and Genealogical Guide" by Jim Herlihy, co-founder of the Garda Museum, Dublin Castle is now available. Contact Jim Herlihy, Blarney Garda Station, Co. Cork, Ireland, (E-mail: jherlihy@iol.ie) for more information.

Gold Coast Irish Interest Group - Club News

Our last meeting for 1999 will be held on Sunday 05 December.
Lunch at Nellie Kelly's Saturday 11th December. Meet at 12 noon for 1.00pm lunch

Parting Thought

You should never call someone a twit
Because that person may have a fit
You may call them something else if you wish
But a twit, I'll have you know is a pregnant goldfish

Merv Rossiter
Convenor and Editor Irish Interest Group
merv@winshop.com.au
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter

Introduction

A very merry Xmas and a prosperous New Year to you all.
I have to eat humble pie. Despite my prediction in the last newsletter, Australia won the Rugby World Cup. The were two highlights. One was the shock defeat of New Zealand by France in what was the best game of the tournament and the second was the unexpected loss of Ireland to Argentina. Perhaps Ireland will do better in the next tournament in 2003 which will hosted jointly by Australia and New Zealand.

Now on to more important things like Irish family history. Recently, I read a newspaper article which said that the most popular website in the world is pornography. The second most popular is family history. It has been said that genealogy is exponential. The growth of family history on the world wide web has certainly made this so. More Irish sites are being published every day so keep watching this newsletter for the latest information.

More Irish Bookmarks

Irish Estate Papers: Identifying Landowners and Locating Records
http://tiara.ie/010899.htm

Queen's University Belfast
http://qub.ac.uk/
telnet://lib.qub.ac.uk

North of Ireland FHS
http://www.mni.co.uk/nifhs/

Ireland GenWeb
http://www.pa-roots.com/ireland

Irish Data Base
http://www.ancestry.com/ancestry/search/4077.htm

Irish Pioneers to Australia
http://www.ballaratgenealogy.org.au/carapook/

Dublin Family Heritage Centre
http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/Dublin.htm

County Dublin - sources for genealogy http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/leinster/index_du.html

County Dublin - queries page
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/5345/dublin.htm

Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown Library Family History Resources http://www.earl.org.uk/familia/services/eire/dun_laogh.html

Dublin City Public Library
http://ireland.iol.ie/resource/dubcitylib

Dublin Public Library Family History Resources http://www.earl.org.uk/familia/services/eire/dublin.html

Dublin City Archive
http://ireland.iol.ie/resource/dubcitylib/archives.htm

Glasnevin Cemetery (in Dublin)
http://www.glasnevin-cemetery.ie

Dublin Directory of 1850
http://www.loughman.dna.ie/dublin1850/index.html

Garda Siochána Museum/Archives
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7900/museum.html

RIC Pamphlet from the Irish at Home and Abroad http://www.ihaonline.com/cgi-bin/ihaonline/articles/viewarticle.cgi?IHA411

Millennium project - the Saint Patrick Visitor Centre.
http://www.saintpatrickcentre.com

Irish ancestry
http://www.drawingbackhome.com

Family History Library Catalogue Record
http://www.familysearch.org/sg/CCFG/ir626369.html

Irish genealogy
http://www.lookupuk.com/genealogy.html

Ancient Order of Hibernians
http://www.aoh.com/

Book Review

"The Great Shame" by Thomas Keneally
There were Australian newspaper reviews about this book on the 7th and 14th November 1998. Copies are available from the editor.

Gleanings from the Internet

Catholic Parish Registers
The National Library of Ireland in Dublin holds microfilm copies of most Catholic parish registers up to 1880 (by which time civil registration is fully established). The Bishops of three dioceses have restricted public access to their records and the Library requires letters of authorisation from the Bishop before these microfilms can be read. The Dioceses are: Cashel and Emly, Kerry, Limerick. The bishops from whom written permission is required are:

Most Rev. Dermot Clifford DD
Archbishop of Cashel and Emly,
Archbishop's House,
Thurles,
Co Tipperary

Most Rev. William Murphy DD
Bishop of Kerry,
Bishop's House,
Killarney,
Co. Kerry

Most Rev. Donal Murray, DD
Bishop of Limerick
66, O'Connell Street
Limerick

The registers of other dioceses are freely availabe

St.Brigid of Ireland

February 1 is the feast of St.Brigid, often called Mary of the Gael and her feast day, along with that of St.Patrick, and our Lady of Knock, are the official holy days of the Ancient Order of Hibernians, who gather annually for a Mass in her honour. More information at

http:www.aoh.com/history/historytitles.htm

Other topics of interest at this site are -:
'The Origin of the Rosary"
"St.Valentine's Irish Connection"
"Saint Patrick"
"The Significance of the 'Great Hunger' on the Development of Ireland"
and about nine others topics.

The Dublin Historical Record is the journal of the Old Dublin Society. It's available on subscription. Write for further information to

Old Dublin Society
c/o The Civic Museum,
South William Street,
Dublin 2

Valuation Office of Ireland
Irish Life Centre
Abbey Street
Lower Dublin 1,
Ireland
http://www.valoff.ie
mail-: info@valoff.ie

Computer Corner

Dave Central, the man who gives you free downloads, has updated his homepage at -: http://www.davecentral.com

Blackstump

http://www.blackstump.com.au/

This is a daily informative email newsletter giving the latest update on websites on just about every subject. I use this site as a check to see if my email facility is working.

Gold Coast Irish Interest Group - Club News

Saturday 12th December. Xmas luncheon at Nelly Kelly's, 9 Elkorn Ave, Surfers Paradise.
Meet at 12 noon for drinks. Lunch at 1.00pm

Sunday 06 February 2000 - monthly meeting - a workshop will be held

Sunday 2nd April 2000 - monthly meeting - A paper will be presented entitled
"Researching Your Irish Ancestors - A Step by Step Guide."

Parting Thought

If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mine, one cannot help wondering what is indicated by an empty desk

Merv Rossiter
Convenor and Editor
Irish Interest Group

merv@winshop.com.au
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter

December 1999

Introduction

Welcome to the new millennium and a Happy New Year to you all. The new year was ushered in around the world to the sound of music and an unprecedent display of fireworks where unfortunately, millions and millions of dollars went up in smoke. One good thing about the New Year celebrations was that the Y2K bug was a fizzer.

New Zealand Day is held on the sixth of February. It commemorates the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi in 1840 between Leiutentant Governor Captain William Hobson, RN, representing the British Crown and many Maori chiefs. This was the day New Zealand became a British colony.

William Hobson was born in County Waterford in Ireland in 1793. He died in Auckland in September 1842 and was buried in the Symonds Street Cemetery near Grafton Bridge. He was the first resident Governor General of New Zealand.

About 14% of the New Zealand population are of Irish descent and many Irish people have left their mark on New Zealand history but Captain William Hobson will always be remembered as the first to do so.

More Irish Bookmarks

Transcriptions - Ardagh Cemetery, Co. Limerick
http://home.att.net/~wexlababe

Paddy Waldron's Personal Homepage
http://pwaldron.bess.tcd.ie/pwaldron.htm

Family Search Records
http://www.familysearch.org/sg/

Orange Men of Ireland
http://www.orangenet.org/menu.htm

Black Irish
http://www.hypertext.com/blackirish

Irish Wills
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/willsandadmin.html

Kerry Genealogy and the Marriage Records for the
Parish of Keel and Kiltallagh, 1804 - 1820 on-line
http://www.shopshamrock.com

Irish Search Engine
http://www.ireland-information.com/engine

The Belfast Newsletter Index Database, 1737 - 1800 (This a Belfast newspaper) http://www.ucs.usl.edu/~jcg3525/Main.html

County Cork
http://www.sci.net.au/mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm

County Antrim (new address)
http://mcfaul.jumpbusiness.com

IreAtlas Townland
http://www.seanruad.com/

Paul Gorry
What's What in Irish Genealogy
http://indigo.ie/~gorry/
email-: gorry@indigo.ie

Irish Mail Lists

Surnames
surnames-ireland-m@rootsweb.com

Shamrock
SHAMROCK-L@rootsweb.com

Ireland
IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com

Greenisle
greenisle-gene-@egroups.com

Genire
GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com

Ireland rooters
IRELAND-ROOTERS@mail.genexchange.com

Paul Gorry

Paul Gorry has had a lifelong interest in local and family history and he has been engaged in genealogical research on a professional basis for twenty years. He began his professional career as a freelance researcher for the state-run Genealogical Office, Dublin, in 1979. The guidance of the experienced genealogists on the research panel was invaluable in developing his knowledge of sources and techniques. This informal "apprenticeship" gave him the skills to match his passion for the subject. Since 1987 he has been operating entirely through the firm of Gorry Research, conducting and supervising genealogical searches for hundreds of clients. In advance of the state visits of the then Canadian Prime Minister, Brian Mulroney, (in 1991) and the U.S. President, Bill Clinton, (in 1995), Paul Gorry was commissioned by the Irish government , through the Genealogical Office, to research their Irish ancestry. He is now providing a research assessment service on his website, What's What in Irish Genealogy.

Pursuing his interest in local history, Paul joined the Kildare Archaeological Society in 1979. In 1980 he founded the West Wicklow Historical Society (WWHS) and he was its Chairman in 1980-1981. He served on the sub-committee that edited the three issues of the West Wicklow Historical Society Journal which have so far been produced, and contributed several articles to it. In 1985 he was engaged by the WWHS as supervisor of the first church register indexing project conducted in Co. Wicklow. This was a six month state-funded project.

He has been a member of the Irish Genealogical Research Society (IGRS) since 1980 and of the Society of Genealogists [London] since 1987. He was a founder member of the Association of Professional Genealogists in Ireland (APGI) and was its Hon. Secretary for 1988-1991. In 1989 Paul brought together a group of individuals to organise an international conference on Irish genealogy. This group staged the 1st Irish Genealogical Congress (IGC) in 1991. To date there have been three events, the others being held in 1994 and 1997. The 4th Congress is planned for September 2001. Paul has been Chairman of the IGC since its inception. In 1995/6 he also served as Chairman of the Council of Irish Genealogical Organisations (CIGO).

Paul Gorry has written extensively on genealogical topics. He has been a frequent contributor to Family Tree and Irish Roots magazines over the years. He has also published articles on Irish golf history. With Máire Mac Conghail he was joint-author of the book Tracing Irish Ancestors , published by HarperCollins in 1997. As well as giving lectures at various venues in Ireland and in London, Paul has spoken at all three Irish Genealogical Congresses and at the Society of Genealogists' 75th Anniversary Congress in Oxford (1986), the National Genealogical Society's Conference in Jacksonville , Florida (1992), the Irish Genealogical Seminar in Hervey Bay, Queensland (1995), the 8th British Family History Conference in York (1997) and the New England Historic Genealogical Society's Irish Genealogical Conference at Randolph, Massachusetts (1999). In June 1999 he was elected a Fellow of the Society of Genealogists.

Mr. Paul Gorry,
Gorry Research,
Church Lane,
Baltinglass,
Co. Wicklow.
Tel. & Fax. 0508 - 82164

email-: gorry@indigo.ie
http://indigo.ie/~gorry/

Book Review

The Big Wind
by Peter Carr
ISBN 1 870132 50 5
140 pages, paperback, 210x145

Published in 1991 by
The White Row Press
135 Cumberland Road
Dundonald
Belfast BT16 OBB

The book is in two parts, the first 60 pages is the author's story about Oi'che na Gaoithe Mo'ire (the night of the Big Wind) and the next 80 pages is a village by village account of the storm as related in the various newspapers. This is a riveting account of how a severe storm struck Ireland and how it affected the people. It is only the second storm to be given a name. This event has now been preserved in the annals of Irish history, thanks to Peter Carr.

The Big Wind struck on Sunday night, the 6th January 1839. It has been variously described as a gale, a tornado, a hurricane and a super storm. It was at that time, the biggest storm in living memory. There had been storms in 856, 988 and on the 15th January 1362 which was named St.Mary's Wind., the only other storm to be given a name. Also there were storms in 1548 and 1903 which have been described as being comparable with the Big Wind.

England has experienced two epic storms in the last three hundred years., the Great Storm of 1703 which was catalogued by Defoe, and the storm of 1987. Fortunately, neither of these two storms really affected Ireland.

The Big Wind started as a deep depression of 918 mb, (about 27.25 inches on the mercury barometer., a record low), east of the Hebrides and the associated front travelled across Ireland, Scotland, the English midlands to Denmark. At 3.00pm on the Sunday there was an un-natural calm., at 9.00pm a westerly breeze got up., at 10.30pm the wind was of gale strength., by midnight it had become a hurricane peaking between 2.00am and 5.00am.

The loss of human life was low, the death toll being between 250 and 300. Most of those who died were lost at sea. Those who died on land were killed by falling chimneys or church steeples, or were killed when their houses were blown away or burnt down. "Gentlefolk died., women and servants were destroyed." Those who suffered the most were the poor., the workers of the land. Many trees were levelled and farm stock killed, some disappearing without trace.

Sunday night, the 6th January was the Twelfth Night, the night of Epiphany. It was also the day of Little Christmas or Women's Christmas. This was the day of Christmas before the introduction of the Gregorian Calendar. And it was also the Feast day of St.Ceara. This is when the fairies met. On this day they had a violent dispute and some left Ireland never to return. Irish fairies have no wings and fly by whipping up a whirlwind. Is this what happened? Some old people blamed the Freemasons for bringing up the Devil out of hell, then they could not get him back. Religious people thought it was the Day of Judgement and a visitation by God.

The Big Wind had one desirable attribute. It hastened the implementation of the Poor Law Act of 1838 where the wealthy were taxed to support the poor. Between 1838 and 1852, there were 163 work-houses built throughout the country

In 1909 the Pension's Act became law. People over the age of 70 were paid five shillings (50 cents) per week as a pension. The registration of births did not commence until 1864 so there were no records to prove a person's age. However if the person could remember the Big Wind then it was proof that they qualified. It is interesting to note that 128% of Irelands population registered for the pension.

There have been many storms over the years to affect Ireland and more will undoubtedly come. So when will Big Wind II come? In Peter Lemesurier's book "The Great Pyramid Decoded" he writes that Christ will return to Earth in the year 2039., (the Christos incarnates in a physical man - the long awaited Messianic return) This will be the 200th anniversary of the Big Wind. Will Christ's second coming be preceded by Big Wind II ? Unfortunately I wont be here to find out unless of course, I become one of St.Ceara's fairies.

This is a great little book with plenty of end notes and references to allow the reader to explore further the story of The Big Wind. It is available in Australia on inter-library loan through your local Council library.

Gleanings From the Internet

The Irish in the British Army. The regiments stationed at Aldershot in the 1881 census (about 10 different regiments) have large numbers of Irish in them. Just browse the census for Aldershot, Surrey and wander through the "neighbourhood" until you find the barracks.

Irish in the British Army
http://midas.ac.uk/genuki/big/BritMilRecs.html

Irish At Home and Abroad

This journal has ceased publication. The last issue was December 1999
For more information, see a message from the Editors at
http://www.ihaonline.com/index3.htm

New Publications

“The Royal Irish Constabulary: A Complete Alphabetical List of Officers and Men 1816-1922”
Four Courts Press, Dublin, 1999
ISBN 1-85182-502-9
Hardback, pp. xxxiv, 488; price #30.00 (in Ireland)

Not really Irish, but ???

Oranges and Lemons, say the bells of St. Clements (St.Clement Danes)
I owe you five farthings, say the bells of St. Martins (St.Martins-in-the Fields)
When will you pay me, say the bells of Old Bailey (St.Sepulchres without Newgate)
When I grow rich, say the bells of Shoreditch (St. Leonard Shoreditch)
When will that be, say the bells of Stepney (St. Dunstan Stepney)
I do not know, says the great bell of Bow (St Mary-Le-Bow Cheapside)
(or Old Jewry (St. Lawrence Jewry)

St. Lawrence Jewry has a ring of eight bells, St. Clement Danes and St. Dunstan have rings of 10 bells and the rest have rings of 12 bells.

Or

Gay go up and gay go down To ring the bells of London Town

Bull's eyes and targets, say the bells of St. Margaret's,
Brickbats and tiles, say the bells of St. Giles',
Oranges and lemons, say the bells of St. Clement's,
Pancakes and fritters, say the bells of St. Peter's,
Two sticks and an apple say the bells at Whitechapel,
Old father Baldpate, say the slow bells at Aldgate,
Maids in white aprons, say the bells at St. Catherine's,
Pokers and tongs, say the bells at St. John's,
Kettles and pans, say the bells at St. Anne's,
Your owe me five farthings, say the bells of St. Martin's,
When will you pay me? say the bells at Old Bailey,
When I grow rich, say the bells of Shoreditch,
Pray, when will that be? say the bells at Stepney,
I'm sure I don't know, says the great bell at Bow.
Here comes a candle to light you to bed,
Here comes a chopper to chop off your head.

Computer Corner

A free email computer help line is available from Ray Shaw of Brisbane, Australia. He can be heard on ABC Radio 612- 4QR (Brisbane) at 10.30am each Thursday. His webpage is at -:

http://www.rayshaw.im.com.au/
email -: img@im.com.au

Bits and Pieces

"Tis true., there's magic in the web....." Shakespeare : Othello

(What did Shakespeare know about computers" Ed.)

Gold Coast Irish Interest Group - Club News

April meeting - 02 April - Researching for Your Irish Ancestors. A Step by Step Guide

June meeting - 04 June

Parting Thought

Is life worth living.?
It depends on the liver.

Hooroo

Merv Rossiter
Editor and convenor Irish Interest Group
merv@winshop.com.au
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter (Merv's homepage)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/ (Rossiter newsletter)

Editorial

On Wednesday the 16th March I attended a function at the Queensland State Library in Brisbane in honour of the late Mrs Margaret O'Dowling, a former Library patron and committee chairperson.

Through Mrs O'Dowling's generous bequest the Library has received two fabulous acquisitions namely a full set of the Irish "Tithe Applotment Books c1823 - 1838" (on film) and a set of "Townland Ordinance Survey Maps of 1833 to 1844".

These two gifts will be of immense help to people trying to find their Irish ancestors. I understand that the only other institute in Australia to hold a copy of these records is the Genealogical Society of Victoria in Melbourne.

The Queensland State Library will hold a seminar on Saturday the 22nd July to explain the use of these two resources

We should all say a prayer of thanks to Mrs O'Dowling

More Irish Bookmarks

Welcome to Northern Ireland - Northern Ireland Tourist Board
http://www.interknowledge.com/northern-ireland/default.htm

County Cork
http://www.sci.net.au/mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm

Irish Newsletter - The Genie Gazette
http://welcome.to/GenealogyIreland

Global Gazette
http://GlobalGazette.net/gazettes/gaz47.htm

Augustinian's In Australia
http://www.mercy.org.au/augustinians/index.html

Irish Family Connections
http://www.bmajor.dircon.co.uk/

Gaelic origins
http://www.irishclans.com

Saint Patrick
http://www.saint-patrick.com/

Irish links
http://www.esatclear.ie/~garda/irpolinks.html

Video Ireland
http://www.video.ireland.net/

Out of Mayo
http//www.mayo-ireland.ie/

Searching for Your Irish ancestors
http://www.Historicalresearchireland.com

Unison Ireland - Irish news, sport services and business.
http://www.unison.ie

Irish Flax Growers List 1796
http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3732.htm

Irish Records Index 1500 - 1920
http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4077.htm

Irish Vital Records
http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4537.htm

Chicago Irish Families 1875 - 1925
http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3524.htm

Bookmarks of the Month

Irish Historical Mysteries
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~seanmurphy/irhismys/

Dublin Heritage Trails
http://www.visit.ie/Dublin/heritage/

Australian - Irish Journal

A new Australian - Irish journal, "TAIN" is now available. Details available at

http://www.tain.net.au
email -: info@tain.net.au

Book Review

"The Gardens of Hell"
by Peter O'Shaughnessy
published by Kangaroo Press 1988
ISBN 0 8641791 9

This book is about John Mitchell in Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania) from 1850 to 1853. Mitchell was a "Young Irelander" sentenced to transportation for 14 years. He was first sent to Bermuda and then to Tasmania before escaping to San Francisco. While in confinement Mitchell wrote his "Jail Journal" which has been described as a literary masterpiece.

The Gardens of Hell has been edited from the text of John Mitchell's "Jail Journal" which was first published in Mitchell's newspaper, the Citizen, in New York, in 1854

This book is available from the Gold Coast City Council Library

Catholic Qualification Rolls, 1775 - 1801

There is an excellent article on this subject in the journal "The Irish At Home And Abroad" (4th Quarter 1999). The rolls list Catholics who converted to Church of Ireland. It shows name, residence, date qualified, some occupations, and court where qualified.

The Church of the Latter Day Saints at Salt Lake City have filmed these lists. The film numbers are #100889 and #100890

What's On TV

Ballykissangel is on the ABC (Australia Broadcasting Commission) 7.30pm Sunday. On the 5th March the episode "Eureka" was shown. It was about a Jack Quigley who found gold in Australia and the search for his descendants. The video should be available soon.

BBC2 (England) has a family history series called "Blood Ties" which started on the 26th February. Details are on the internet at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/blood/
Search for the sister programme "Breaking the Seal". Some good links on this site

SBS (Australia) is showing a six part series which started on Wednesday 15th March at 7.30pm called "Meet The Ancestors." Details are on the internet at http://www.bbc.co.uk/education/ancestors/

Gleanings From the Internet

"The Irish Crown Jewels"

In the newsgroup "soc.genealogy ireland" a writer comments on the "shenanigans" in the Genealogical Office in Dublin. He says that the office has never recovered from the "Irish Crown Jewels" incident

So what were the "Irish Crown Jewels". They were the regalia or insignia of the Order of Saint Patrick which were stolen from Dublin Castle in 1907 and never returned.

Sean Murphy writes about this event at -: http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanmurphy/irhismys/jewels.htm

Michael Nash writes about The "Strange" Disappearance of the Irish "Crown Jewels" at -: http:www.thehistorynet.com/BritishHeritage/articles/1999/09992_text.htm

For a full description of the Irish Crown Jewels go to
http://www.royal.gov.uk/faq/honour5.htm

One person who was investigated was Pierce O'Mahony. Seamus Shortall writes about him at -: http://www.iol.ie/~sshortal/Mahony/pierce_o.htm

All very interesting reading.

Bits and Pieces

Patrick met the Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard, at the Queensland Irish Association's clubrooms in Brisbane on Saint Patrick's Day and the conversation went like this, I think.

Patrick. "Hello Mr Howard. My name is Patrick Murphy. I am an admirer of yours and have voted for you many times."

P.M. "Hello Patrick. I'm pleased to meet you. Lets shake hands"

Patrick., shaking hands. "I know that hand"

P.M. "What do you mean.?"

Patrick. "It's been in my pocket for years."

(Told by the P.M., more or less, on Wednesday 16 March at the Queensland Irish Association's Saint Patrick Day's Dinner.)

Computer Corner

Google search engine
http://www.google.com/
A great site for surnames

NONAGS- Freeware Shareware Worldwide
http://www.nonags.com

Freestation - For Freeware and Freebies
http://www.freestation.com

Gold Coast Irish Interest Group - Club News

Our first research day was held on Sunday 05 March. The next one will be on Sunday 07 May from 10.30am to 3.00pm so come along and do your own thing. Help is available.

Our new schedule of meeting days for the year 2000 is as follows

April 02 Guest speaker
May 07 Research day
June 04 Guest speaker
July 02 Research day
Aug 06 Annual meeting
Sep 03 Research day
Oct 01 Guest speaker
Nov 05 Research day
Dec 03 Xmas party

Parting Thought

In Ireland there is only one shopping day left until tomorrow.

Hooroo

Merv Rossiter
Convenor and editor, Irish Interest Group

merv@winshop.com.au
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter (Merv's homepage)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/ (Rossiter newsletter) http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/mottos.htm (Irish Family Mottos)

Introduction

This newsletter is gradually finding its way around the world.

County Wicklow has asked for a link as has the Irish Family History Society. So here they are.

Wicklow Chat Line
http://www.wicklowchat.com

Wicklow Links
http://www.wicklow-links.com

Irish Family History Society
http://homepage.eircom.net/~ifhs

More Irish Bookmarks

New Irish Search Engine - "Index Eireann"
http://www.index-eireann.com/

Royal Ulster Constabulary
http://www.ruc.police.uk/

Anglo-Irish Family History Society
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia

A Little Bit of Ireland
http://home.att.net/~labaths/

Tipperary Heritage Unit
http://www.iol.ie/~thu

Cemeteries World Wide
http://www.interment.net/cemetery.htm

Donegal Town
http://www.donegaltown.ie/index.html

Land Registry and Registry of Deeds
http://www.irlgov/landreg/registry_of_deeds_services.htm

Ulster Genealogy, Ulster Scots and Irish Scots Orangemen
http://www.orangenet.org/genealogy

Gaelic Heritage Society
http://www.crosswinds.net/~ghsnet/

Omas Search Engine
http://omas.tsx.org

"Irish Travel Plans"
http://www.irishtravelplans.com/

Seek Books
http://www.seekbooks.com/
(click on Ireland)

Parish of Ferns, Wexford
http://www.ferns.ie

Ireland History
http://www.irelandhistory.com

The National Museum of Ireland http://www.visit.ie/countries/ie/dublin/top_at23_nationalmuseum.htm

Northern Ireland Poor Law Records
http://proni.nics.gov.uk/records/poor_law.htm

Agriculure Census 1803 for County Antrim
http://www.ihaonline.com/antrim.htm

O'Lochlainns Irish Family Journal
http://www.irishroots.com/frmain.htm

URL Sites of the Month

Firstmom's World Wide Genealogy Resources
http://members.tripod.com/~KHuish/ireland.htm

Paddy's Fifty Favourite Irish Links
http://www.all-4-free.com/paddy/50/autorank.html

Ireland History in Maps
http://www.fortunecity.com/bally/kilkenny/2/iremaps.htm

Irish Vital Records - A Critical Appraisal

Irish Vital Records 1400s - 1800s cdrom
Published by Global Data CD Publishers, LLC
1623 W. 3640 South St.George, UT 84790

http://www.gencd.com/
email: globalcd@infowest.com

On the outside of the case is a list of contents, namely., 1659 census, Irish of Liverpool, 1851 census, Wills, Passengers.
When reading the cdrom, the table of contents are somewhat different., ie., 1659 Census, 1600-1634 Dates, Liverpool 1851 Census, Irish Wills, Aboard Ship, Ships Passengers

Here is what each site contains.

1659 Census.
This is for County Cork only. The site is searchable and lists the surname, first name and parish. 1600 - 1634 Dates
This is for County Cork only. The site is searchable and lists surname, first name and parish. Liverpool 1851 Census
This is for St.Martin's Parish only. The site is searchable and lists surname, first name, year of birth and occupation.
Irish Wills
This site is searchable by surname and first name and shows where the Will may be found., ie "in the Will Book deposited with the PRO Dublin or it may be mentioned in a book called "Irish Wills by W.H. WELPLEY Esq" in the library of the Society of Genealogists in London
Aboard Ship
This is an extract from "Illustrated News" dated Saturday 06 July 1850 and it is about emigration to the USA Ships Passengers This site is searchable and gives surname, first name, place of birth, date of embarkation and destination of ship

Critical Appraisal

1659 Census
It is not until the cdrom has been purchased and installed does the researcher find that it is for County Cork only.
1600 - 1634 Dates
This site in my opinion is of very limited value
Liverpool 1851 Census
Is this the "1851 census" referred to on the outside of the case or is it the "Irish of Liverpool". Either way it is not until the cdrom has been purchased and installed that it is revealed that it is for St.Martins only.
Irish Wills
There are no Irish Wills to download at this site nor are any index numbers given. A good public library would, in my opinion, provide better information at no cost
Aboard Ship
Some people may find this interesting to read but again, in my opinion, a good public library would provide better information at no cost.
Ships Passengers
This type of information is available from a good public library at no cost.
Summary
Save your money and don't be caught out by deceptive advertising.

"Index of Irish Wills 1485 - 1858"

This is a new cdrom produced by Eneclann Ltd whose Principals are historians and graduates of Trinity College, Dublin. It is a comprehensive index to the Testementary Records in the National Archives of Ireland. It contains 70,000 individual records with over 100,000 names, over 10,000 surnames and their variants, plus over 1000 different occupations.

The cost is Irish£36.30 incl VAT, but it should be cheaper for overseas people since they won't have to pay VAT

The name and address of the firm is

Eneclann Ltd
Innovation Centre
O'Reilly Institute
Trinity College
Dublin 2

Fax 00353 1 6710281
Email : info@eneclann.ie
http://www.eneclann.tcd.ie

Thanks to John Heueston, Hon.Chairman, Irish Family History Society, Dublin, for providing this information.

Book Review

"Oscar Wilde" by Richard Ellmann
published by Alfred A Knoff 1988
ISBN 0-394-55484-1
Hardcover, 240mm x 165mm., 680 pages

This is the definitive book about Oscar Wilde, his life and his works and also his ancestors and descendants.

This book is available from the Gold Coast City Council Library

Oscar Wilde and the "Ballad of Reading Gaol"

"C.3.3 was the alias under which Oscar Wilde originally published this long and bitter poem written shortly after he was released from Reading Jail in 1898. C.3.3 was Oscar Wilde's own prison number, and the poem was inspired by his experience in jail, and a hanging he witnessed there. The Ballad tells the story of a guardsman, convicted of murdering his lover, who awaits execution in the prison, watched balefully by the other convicts as he is exercised in the prison yard. As the fateful time draws near, the convicts are driven to despair by the thought of the doomed man in their midst. Then, at eight in the morning, after a night of terrible anticipation, the condemned prisoner is hanged, and buried immediately in an unmarked grave - filled with quicklime to destroy the body hastily. The narrative is stark and simple, and the insistent song-like rhythm gives the Ballad an almost hypnotic power. The effect is one of the most moving indictments of capital punishment and the inhumanity of th prison system ever written, and it is justly Oscar Wilde's most famous poem."

The full poem, which is 16 pages long, is on the internet at

http://www.bibliomania.com/Poetry/Wilde/ReadingGaol/Complete.html

Gleanings From the Internet

"The Society of Genealogists in London have signed an agreement with Scottish Origins to put much of their material online on a pay-as-you-view basis. This is great news for genealogists. Scottish Origins appears to be well prepared for the vast amount of material. The company has already worked for the General Register Office for Scotland to place much of their data online at http://www.origins.net
Obviously, Scottish Origins is now planning a similar effort with the Society of Genealogists."

from "soc.genealogy.medieval" newsgroup 10April 2000

From other newsgroups- some of the records that will be published are

* Apprentices of Great Britain series
* Bank of England wills
* Vicar General Marriage Licence Allegations Index (1694-1850)
* Boyd's Inhabitants of London
* Teachers Registration Council (1902-1948)
* Boyd's London Burials (1538-1853)

Records should be on-line by September 2000

(This is great news for the Irish Researcher as SOG has a lot of Irish records so keep watching this space for further developments. Ed.)

From the LDS

The LDS Family History Library Catalogue is on-line at http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp

The LDS Ancestral File is on-line at
http://www.familysearch.org/Search/af/ancestral_file_frame.asp

Computer Corner

Forbes Computer Group
http://www.angelfire.com/bc/juliette/forbes.html
A good site for computers and genealogy

Ray Shaw - 612-4QR Brisbane - Radio talk-back, is now Tuesdays 8.15pm to 8.45pm Check his site at -:
http://www.rayshaw.im.com.au/
email -: img@im.com.au

Irish Wallpaper
http://www.davesdigitaldesigns.com/irish/

Bits and Pieces

A sign in the Belfast Hospital
"When the fire bell rings, please notify the audiology department."

Gold Coast Irish Interest Group - Club News

(1) Newsletters No.1 to No.12 now available in book form

(2) Nerang LDS Research Room

To get there, drive 4 kms along the Canungra Road from Nerang to the Mt Nathan Road turn-off. Go past the turn-off for about 50m and turn right from the centre of the road. Go to the end of the carpark. Walk up the stairs and through the double doors on the left of the building. The research room is the first door on the left.

To order a film reading machine, phone 5596 7591. You now have 40 days to read a film. If you oder any microfiche they will now stay at Nerang on pernament loan.

The opening hours are
Tues : 10.00am to 2.00pm and 6.00pm to 9.00pm
Wed : 10.00am to 2.00pm
Thurs : 6.00pm to 9.00pm
Sat : 1.00pm to 5.00pm

(3) The British Civil Records for Military personnel and their families and other people who were born, married or died outside of the British Isles can be found at -: Enoggera LDS Family History Centre, Gaythorne Road, Brisbane.

(4) As from 1st May, the "Irish Interest Group Club News" will now be published in the monthly email newsletter. To subscribe, please send me an email. 

Parting Thought

Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home.

Hooroo

Merv Rossiter
merv@winshop.com.au

http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter (Merv's homepage)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv (Rossiter newsletters)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/mottos.htm (Irish Family Mottos)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/gcags/irish (Irish newsletters)

Introduction

Australia is now in the world spotlight with the 2000 Olympic Games commencing in Sydney on September 14th The official website is at -:

A First for Australia and a First for the Whole World

This newsletter started two years ago (Aug 1998) and I believe that this is still the only free on-line Irish newsletter published by a genealogy society. Over the past two years I have searched the net but to no avail. The following is a list of what I have found so far.

(1) Eastman's On-line Genealogy Newsletter -:

This is a weekly newsletter. Free subscription is available.
To access past newsletters indexed by date go to -:

Search the archives for Irish content by going to http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/column/eastman/d_p_l_archive.asp
In the search box type in Ireland or Irish.
To get there go to

click on Dick Eastman online
click on archive

(2) The Global Gazette -: http://globalgazette.net/

This is a weekly newsletter. Free subscription is available. Search for "Irish Origins" which appears every two weeks and is produced by Kyle Betit.

(3) Local Ireland

This is a fortnightly newsletter. Free subscription is available. It is written by Francis Dowling an Irish professional genealogist based in Ireland. The first letter was written on 07 January 2000.

(This is an excellent newsletter - Ed.)

(4) "All Ireland Sources" Newsletter A monthly email newsletter written by Terry Eakin of Sydney, Australia Free subscription is available by emailing Terry at teakin@chilli.net.au

(This is an excellent newsletter -Ed.)

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

Royal Ulster Rifle Museum
http://members.tripod.co.uk/rurmuseum/

Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown Library Family History Resources
http://www.earl.org.uk/familia/services/eire/dun_laogh.html

County Dublin - sources for genealogy
http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/leinster/index_du.html

Dublin Public Library - Family History Resources
http://www.earl.org.uk/familia/services/eire/dublin.html

Dublin City Public library
http://ireland.iol.ie/resource/dubcitylib

Dublin City Archive
http://ireland.iol.ie/resource/dubcitylib/archives.htm

Family Homes of Ireland
http://www.family-homes.ie/

Irish Message Board
http://www.boards.ie/

Irish shipping
http://nde4.nde.state.ne.us/SS/irish/unit_5.html

Cork Web
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/
email-: corkweb@irishabroad.com

Irish in America
http://www.cris.com/~Maguire/

Galway sources for Genealogy
http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/connaught/index_ga.html

Galway Public Library Local Archives
http://www.galwaylibrary.ie/

Galway Surnames
http://www.labyrinth.net.au/~quibellg/galway.htm

Galway Roots query board
http://mail.mayo-ireland.ie/WebX?14@^6631@.ee6b2d0

Site of the Month

Digital Library
http://www.digital-librarian.com

Boston Irish Humour - Wicked Pissah Page

http://home.earthlink.net/~lnkn/

Daisy Bates - Irish Australian Bigamist - Her First Husband Was "Breaker" Morant

Daisy Bates is known in Australian history for her welfare work with the aborigine people from about 1899 to 1945. In 1934 she was honoured with a C.B.E. Her adopted people called her "Kabbarli" meaning "white grandmother" or "grand motherly person."

Her attitude to love and life is best described in her own words.

"I like to fall in love, donchersee, nothing serious much. Just meet, love, then part - perhaps never to see each other again. It was fun that way." So said Daisy Bates to a journalist in the 1940's. (1)
And Daisy Bates did fall in love., at least four times.

In 1884 Daisy Bates married Edwin Henry Murrant ("Breaker Morant") at Charters Towers in North Queensland. (2). Daisy then went to New South Wales and became engaged to Phillip Gipps but he died before he could marry her. (3). In 1885 she married Ernest C Baglehole at Newtown in Sydney (4) and then on the 17th February 1885 she married John Bates at Nowra. (5) They had a son Arnold Hamilton Bates, born 26 August 1886 at Bathhurst The names of the parents were registered as John and Daisy M Bates. (6)

Four men in one year. What a woman!!!!

So who was Daisy Bates.?

Daisy Bates was born Daisy May O'Dwyer on 16 October 1860/63 at Ashberry House, Caraig Hill, County Tipperary, Ireland, (7) daughter of James Edward O'Dwyer and Marguarette Hunt. (8). When Daisy was three years old her mother died, and soon after, her father abandoned her and her brother Jim and sister Kathleen. Daisy was adopted by Sir Francis and Lady Outram while Jim and Kathleen stayed in Dublin for their education.

At the age of 20, Daisy developed a lung complaint and came to Australia to recuperate. She arrived at Cooktown 13 January 1883 on the "Almora" and stayed briefly at Townsville with the Bishop G.H.Stanton. (9)

Much has been written elsewhere about Daisy Bates including a biography "Daisy Bates in the Desert" by Julia Blackburn so the following is just an outline of the life and achievements of Daisy Bates.

1884 married Edwin Henry Murrant
1885 married Ernest C Baglehole
1885 married Jack Bates
1886 her son Arthur is born
1894 returned to England in February
1899 returned to Australia (Perth) in August. Went to Beagle Bay Mission near Broome to study the aborigine language
1902 April. With husband and son., drove cattle from Broome to Perth
1902 October, separated from her husband.
1904 May, appointed by the West Australian Government to record the customs, languages and dialects of the aborigines at the Maaba reserve in Cannington.
1910 with the anthropological expedition under Professor A.R.Radcliffe-Brown
1912 appointed Honorary Protector of Aborigines at Eucla
1919 September, went to live among the aborigines at Ooldea in South Australia.
stayed there 16 years.
1934 Awarded The Order of commander of the British Empire in the New Years Honours
1935 Wrote her autobiography "My Natives and I"
1938 Published her book "The Passing of the Aborigines".
1941 Lived among the aborigines at Wynbring east of Ooldea
1945 Returned to Adelaide because of failing health.
1951 April 18 died at Adelaide, aged 91

So who were the men in the live of Daisy Bates?

"Breaker" Morant was a horseman, poet, and an Australia soldier who fought in the Boer War and was executed by a British Army firing squad on 27 February 1902 at Pietersburg for killing prisoners of war.

He was born Edwin Henry Murrant at Bridgewater, Somerset, England on 09 December 1864, son of Edwin Murrant and Catherine Murrant nee O'Reilly who managed a workhouse. (10) In 1881 Edwin became a school teacher at Barnet in London. At the age of 20 he came to Australia and arrived at Cooktown 05 June 1883 on the "Waroonga". (11) On 13 March 1884 he married Daisy May O'Dwyer at Charters Towers. Soon after they separated, Edwin going to Winton and over the years, he worked his way south. From 1891 he sent his poetry to the "Bulletin" for publication. He was in Adelaide when the Boer War commenced.

Edwin Murrant joined the 2nd South Australian Mounted Rifles in 1899 which departed for South Africa on 26 January 1900. The contingent returned 12 May 1901 but Edwin stayed behind and enlisted with the Bushveldt Carbineers. He was executed with Lt Peter Hancock a veterinary officer from Western Australia. They were buried together at the Church Street Cemetery in Pretoria.

There can be no doubt that Edwin Henry Murrant was "Breaker" Morant. Following his execution people in North Queensland who knew of him wrote to the Charters Tower's newspaper "The Northern Miner".

The second man in the life of Daisy Bates was Phillip Gipps. The only information to hand at the moment is that Phillip Gipps died at Inverell in 1885 aged 25. Whether they were engaged has not been substantiated.

The third man in the life of Daisy Bates was Ernest C Baglehole. There is an entry in the New South Wales Marriage Indexes showing that Ernest C Baglehole married Daisy M O'Dwyer at Newtown Sydney in 1885. The certificate has not been sighted yet. A search for a marriage or death for Ernest Baglehole (Beaglehole) after 1885 proved negative.

And finally we come to Jack (John) Bates who she married at Nowra, 17 Feb 1885. Their son Arnold was born 26 August 1886 at Bathurst. Daisy went to England by herself in 1894 and returned in 1899. She separated from her husband and son in 1902.

"Breaker" Morant and Daisy Bates were both pathological liars so its difficult to piece together the truth. I have quoted my references where possible but some of these may be doubtful.

Julia Blackburn in her book "Daisy Bates in the Desert" writes that a researcher went to Ireland in the 1960's to find out more about Daisy Bates but could not solve the jigsaw puzzle. Another attempt was made in the 1980's and a relative was found in Dublin. It appears that Daisy was from a poor catholic family. Her mother died when she was young and her father was a terrible drunkard who deserted his young family and ran off to America with a new woman but died while the ship was crossing the Atlantic. Daisy was sent to an orphanage near Dublin where she was trained as a governess. The Outrams did not know Daisy. Unfortunately Julia Blackburn does not substantiate any of the above.

"Breaker" Morant claimed that he was the son of Admiral George Digby Morant and that he had been Lieutenant Henry Harbord Morant in the English Navy. This we now know is not true.

What we do know was that "Breaker" Morant was shot on the orders of Lord Kitchener, the greatest war criminal ever to go unpunished. He met his Waterloo and drowned in 1914 when the HMS Hampshire, on which he was a passenger, was sunk by a German mine in the North Sea. Unfortunately a relative of mine Thomas Rossiter, was on the same ship. He was a Roman Catholic Priest. I don't think that he would have had time to hear Kitchener's confession. But that is another story.

Acknowledgements

I would like to thank Lenore Frost < lfrost@alphalink.com.au >for her assistance

References

(1) "Fifty Famous Australians" by Professor G.V.Portus
(2) Australian Dictionary of Biography (ADB)
(3) Flinders Ranges Research http://www.ozemail.com.au/~fliranre/bates.htm
(4) NSW marriage certificate number 2853
(5) NSW marriage certificate number 7148
(6) NSW birth certificate number 17995
(7) ADB says 1863. Julia Blackburn says 1860
(8) ADB.
(9) ADB
(10) ADB
(11) Queensland Shipping Index. Ed.Murrant listed.

Further reading

http://www.latrobe.edu.au/www/english/lateral/Latest/rm-article.htm

Book Review

"Daisy Bates in the Desert" by Julia Blackburn
published by Minerva 1994
ISBN 0 7493 9717 9
Paperback - 232 pages

Not a book for the family historian. No substantiated facts, no end notes and no references quoted so the book cannot be regarded as a biography of Daisy Bates. This is a pity because Julia Blackburn had access to all of the written works of and about Daisy Bates. 

Computer Corner

Computer Problems Solved @ Expert Exchange
http://www.experts-exchange.com/

Bits and Pieces

sdrawkcab dootsrednu tub sdrawrof devil si efiL

Gleanings From the Net

Lawrence of Arabia- His father was an Irishman

The real name of "Lawrence of Arabia" was Thomas Edward Lawrence. He was born in Wales, the second of five illegitimate sons of Sir Thomas Chapman and Sarah Junner. The first son was Robert, then Thomas, William who was killed during World War I, Frank who also died in World War 1, and Arnold.

Lawrence's father was Thomas Robert Tighe Chapman who was born 06 November 1846, the second son of William Chapman (1811-89) and Martha Louisa Vansittart. The ancestral home was called South Hill which was near Delvin in County Westmeath

Further reading

(1) http://www.castlehillpress.co.uk/life/family.htm
(2) National Geographic - Jan 1999

Parting Thought

Genealogists do it generation after generation

Hooroo

Merv Rossiter
merv@winshop.com.au

http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter (Merv's homepage)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv (Rossiter newsletters)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/mottos.htm (Irish Family Mottos)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/gcags/irish (Irish newsletters)

Introduction

Failte romhat agus tar isteach - welcome and come on in

In Newsletter Number One, (August 1998), I wrote that our Irish Interest Group's motto was

The Irish gaelic translation is

In this newsletter we have a look at the Irish language.

Book Review

"Teach Yourself Irish"
by Myles Dillon and Donncha ó Cróinín 1
80mm x 115mm hardcover., 244 pages

A well prepared book with exercises at the end of each chapter

Irish Bookmark of the Month

The Irish Post

http://www.theirishpost .com

A great site for everything Irish including 128 lessons on how to speak the Irish language as published in the "Irish Post" in 1997.

The Irish Language for the Tourist

There are three main varieties of pronunciation of Irish in the Gaeltacht areas. These are : Connaught Irish (Galway and north Mayo); Munster Irish (Cork, Kerry, Waterford) and Ulster Irish (Donegal). The pronunciation guidlines given here are an anglicised-spelling version of the "standard" form, an amalgamation of the three dialects.

FIR - men - fear
MNA' - women - me naw
LEITHREAS - toilet - lehrass
GARDAI - police - gardee
OIFIG AN PHOIST - post office - if ig on pwist
TELEFON - telephone - tay lay foan
AN LAR - town centre - an laah

a as the "a" in cat
á as the "a" in saw
e as the "e" in bet
é as the "a" in day
i as the "i" in sit
í as the "i" in fine
o as the "u" in sun
ó as the "o" in cow
u as the "u" in but
ú as the "u" in cook
c as the "k" in key
ch as the "ch" in the Scottish loch
d as the "j" in jug when followed by "e" or "i" or as the "d" in door when followed by "o" or "u"
dh as the "y" in young when followed by the "e" or "i"
.....or as the "g" in huge when followed by "o" or "u"
t as the "ch" in church when followed or preceeded by "e" or "i"
....or as the "t" in toast when followed or preceeded by by "o" or "u"
th as the "h" in house; sometimes it is silent at the end of a word

one night - oíche amháin - eeheh a woin
one person - aon duine - ayn dinnah
bed/room - leaba/seomra - leeabah/showmra
hotel - óstán - oh stahn
bed & breakfast - loístín oíche - leestin eeheh

I would like to go to.......... Ba mhaith liom dul go dtí..... - baw woh lum dull go dee
I would like to buy............ Ba mhaith liom cheannach - bah woh lumb kyarok
ticket - ticéid - tickaid
boat/ship - bád/long - bawd/lung
car/bus - gluaisteáin/bus - glooshtawn/bus
here/there - anseo/ansin - anshuh/onshin
stop/go - stad/ar aghaidh - stod/err eyeg
town square - lár an baile - lawr an vollyeh
street/road - sráid/bóthar - sroyed/bowher
town/city - baile/cathair - bolleyh/kawher
bank/shop - an banc/siopa - an bonk/shuppa

Hello - Dia Dhuit - dee a qwit ( God be with you)
Goodbye - Slán Agat - slawn aguth
Good night - Oiche mhaith - eeheh woh
Welcome - Fáilte - fawlcha
Welcome - Céad mhíle fáilte - kade meela fawlcha., (100,000 welcomes)
Thank you - Go raibh maith aguth - goh rev moh aguth
Thank you very much - Gur a mhíle maith agat - gur a mila moh agut
Thank you very much - Go raibh mhíle maith agat - goh rev meela moh aguth
Please - Le do thoil - le do thoil
Excuse me - Gabh mo leiscéil - gawv mo lesh scale
How are you? - Conas a tá tú ? - kunas a thaw two
I am fine - Táim go maith - thawn gohmoh
What is your name - Cad is anim duit? - cod is anim dit?
Merv is my name - Merv is anim dom - Merv iss anim dumb
another/one more - ceann eile - keown ella
good, fine, OK - go maith - go moh
nice - go deas - goh dass
yes - tá/sea - thaw/shah
no/it is not - níl/ní hea - knee hah

Why? - Cén fáth - kane faw
What is this? - Cad é seo? - kod ay shawh
What is that? - Cad é sin? - kod ay shin
How much/how many? - Cé mhéid - kay vaid
Expensive/very dear - ana dhaor - ana gare
Where is....? - cá bhfuil....? - kaw will
I don't understand - Ní thuigim - nee higgim
this/that - é seo/é sin - ay shoh/ ay shin
big/small - mór/beag - moor/beeugh
open/closed - oscailte/dúnta - uskulta/doonta
slowly/quickly - go mall/go tapaidh - guh mow/guh topigg

today/tomorrow - inniu/amárach - innyuv/amawrok
hour/minute - huair/noiméid - oor/nomade
week/month - seachtain/mí - shockton/mee
What time is it? - Cén tam é? - kane towm ay
7 o'clock - seacht a chlog - shocked ah klug

Monday - dé luan - day loon
Tuesday - dé máirt - day mawrt
Wednesday - dé céadaoin - day kaydeen
Thursday - déardaoin - daredeen
Friday - dé haoine - day heena
Saturday - dé sathairn - day saheren
Sunday - dé domhnaigh - day downick

1/2 - leath - lah
1 - aon - ayn
2 - dó - doe
3 - trí - three
4 - cathar - kahirr
5 - cúig - koo-ig
6 - sé - shay
7 - seacht - shocked
8 -ocht - ukth
9 - naoi - nay
10 - deich - jeh
11 - aon deag - ayen deeuct
12 - dó deag - doe dayugg
20 - fiche - feekh
21 - fiche aon - feekh-ayn
30 - tríocha - chree okha
40 - daichead - daykh ayd
50 - caoga - ka-uga
60 - seasca - shay ska
70 - seachtó - shocked ow
80- ochtó - ukth ow
90 - nócha - now kha
100 - céad - kade
1000 - míle - meal-ah

Gleanings from the Internet

Traditional Irish Wedding Blessing

A trí faoi trí rudaí tograíonn mé daoibh: Go raiby bhur laethanta iad go léir chomh áthasach le inniu; Go raibh bhur bhaile chomh te le bhur croithe; Nár seadai fearg agus nár imi áathas; Go raibh le chéile sibh mór ná a beirt amhain; Go tacaí le chéile sibh gach aon duine agaibh; Go mbeannaí bhur bhaile. Go faí siocháin agaibh an éiri agus an dul faoi na gréine agus an éiri agus an dul faoi na gealach; Go riamh n-éiri a bothar libh; agus, Go connai sibh Dia i a bos. ______ and _________ is Sheáin, Go mbeannaí Dia daoibh; agus, Go maire sibh i bhfad agus rath.

Three times three things I wish on you: May all your days be as happy as today; May your home be as warm as your hearts; May anger never linger and joy never leave; May the two of you together be greater than the two of you; May you support the each of you; May your home be blessed. May the rising and the setting of the moon find you at peace; May the road always rise to you; and, ________ and _________, many God bless you and May you have long lives and prosperity.

Comhairgeas! Congratulations!

Saol fada agus rath ort. Long life and prosperity to you.

Go maire sibh bhur saol Nua. May you enjoy your new life.

Go raiby clann oraibh chus sibh a bheannú; go raibh cairde agaibh chun sólás a thbhairt daoibh agus go gcaithe sibh bhur saol faoi shíocháin le gach duine.

Go dtuga sibh fianaise ar ghrá De sa saol seo le bhur bhféile dóibh siúd atá faoi anás agus faoi léan ionas go bhfiáilteoidh siadsan romhaibh isteach i solas na bhflaitheas.

Go raibh síochain Dé de shíor in bhur dteachlach.

May God keep you constant in your love; May you be blessed with friends to give you comfort, and may you spend your life in peace with everyone.

May you give witness to the goodness of God in this life with your generosity to those who are in need and in sorrow, so that these may welcome you into the everlasting. May the peace of God be always in your household.

Computer Corner

A downloadable Gaelic dictionary;

Gaelic to English - English to Gaelic Free Translation Service

More Irish Bookmarks

Virtual Ireland Newsletter
http://www.virtualireland.com

Ireland's Eye
http://www.irelandseye.com

Irish and British Surname Database
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Shores/7348

Irish Palantines
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hartrickclan

County Cork Web Page - New URL
http://www.sci.net.au/userpages/mgrogan/cork/ire.cork.htm

Angela's Ashes, Ashes, 'Tis, 'Tis In Me Ass
http://www.greatunpublished.com

Irish Internet Hub
http://larkspirit.com/general/irishhub.html

Civil Parishes and Townlands of County Donegal http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bhilchey/DonegalMain.html

Ireland's Portal
http://www.irelandsportal.com/

Council of Irish Genealogical Organisations
http://indigo.ie/~gorry/CIGO.html

Ireland Uncovered
http://www.irelanduncovered.com/

Linen Hall Library - Belfast
http://www.linenhall.com/

Irish Genealogy
http://www.to-day.co.uk

The Smith Families of Ireland

The Irish name Mac Gamhain means "son of Smith". (Ni Ghamhain for girls - daughter of Smith.) Over hundreds of years, this name has changed culminating in some Irish people even adopting the very English "Smith" as an alternative to Mac Gamhain. Other surname derivations are McGowan and Gowing. Mac Gamhain and McGowan are pronounced "mac-gow-on". Gowing is pronounced "going" though some people in England pronounce it as "gow-ing", (first syllable as in cow).

The family motto for Smith, MacGamhain, McGowan, and Gowing is -:

"tenebras expelit et hostes" "he expels the darkness, and the enemy"

(My thanks to Dr Brendan Gowing of California for supplying this information.Ed)

"There was no smith found throughout all the lands of Israel"
1 Samuel xiii.19

For more Irish family mottos go to -:

Mogue, Moses, Hugh or Aiden - Aed, Hugh, Eugene or Owen

The christian name Mogue is synonymous with Moses, and Aiden is a translation of the name Mogue. St.Aedan was the first Bishop of Ferns in the year 632. Mogue (Mo-Aedh-og = my dear Aedh) Aiden may be spelt Aeden, Aedan or Aidan . From the Middle Ages onward Aed was Anglicizied as Hugh and more recently as Eugene. The RC baptismal name Eugenius is often changed in usage to Owen.

Bits and Pieces

sdrawkcab dootsrednu tub sdrawrof devil si efiL

Parting Thought

"You've got to do your own growing, no matter how tall your grandfather was." (Irish Proverb)

Merv Rossiter
merv@winshop.com.au

Introduction

The next Irish Genealogical Congress will be held in Dublin in September 2001 and the official website is -:

Readers should check the above site regularly for updates. At the time of writing one Irish punt equalled two Australian dollars. A copy of the website page follows.

The Irish Genealogical Congress is a week long event held every three to four years and organised by a committee of volunteers. It is an international conference dealing with family history (and related subjects) of the Irish worldwide. It is open to anyone interested in the topic as a hobby or a profession. The 1st, 2nd & 3rd IGCs were held in 1991, 1994 & 1997.

Credit card facilities will be put in place within the next few months, allowing those wishing to attend the 4th IGC or purchase copies of Aspects of Irish Genealogy (the proceedings of former IGCs) to make their transactions on-line.

Copies of Aspects of Irish Genealogy 3 may be purchased from Mrs. L. Burke, 60 Floraville Avenue, Clondalkin, Dublin 22, Ireland. Copies of Aspects 1 & 2 are also available. The cost of each of the three volumes (including priority/airmail postage & packing) is-:

Ireland IR£10.70
Great Britain IR£11.00
Continental Europe IR£12.80
Rest of the World IR£15.00

MONDAY 17 SEPTEMBER
11.00am-5.00pm - Registration / Research Advisory Service
5. 30pm - Opening Reception & Keynote Address
6.30pm - Opening Dinner

TUESDAY 18 SEPTEMBER
9.00am-10.15am
A.1 Doing Genealogy: images of Ireland and the meaning of roots,Catherine Nash
A.2 Beginners' Overview - Patricia Moorhead
A.3 Lesser Known Sources at the National Archives - Steven C. ffeary-Smyrl

10.45am-12.00
A.4 Making the Irish Connection from America (Part One) - The 18th Century, R.Andrew Pierce A.5 Beginners' Civil Records and Census Returns - Eileen Ó Dúill
A.6 Women in the Professions - Margaret Ó hÓgartaigh

2.00pm-3.15pm
A.7 Balaklava to the Western Front-British Army Records 1850-1920, Brian Oldham
A.8 Focus on Armagh - Grace Greer
A.9 If a star falls-Death and Burial Practices in Post Famine Ireland-Seán Ó Dúill

3.45pm-5.00pm
A.10 19th Century Irish Photography and its relevance as a genealogical aid., John Duggan
A.11 Using a Heritage Centre - Dwight A. Radford
A.12 Interesting Sources in Quaker Records - Pamela Bradley

5.15pm-6.00pm
General Assembly to discuss Congress Resolutions

WEDNESDAY 19 SEPTEMBER
9.00am-10.15am
B.1 Banished Reconsidered - Family reunification in the 19th century.,Perry McIntyre
B.2 Beginners' Land Records - Helen Kelly
B.3 The Nearest Place That Wasn't Ireland-Irish migrants in Wales in the19th Cent.Paul O'Leary

10.45am-12.00
B.4 Making the Irish Connection from America (Part Two) - The 19th Century.,R. Andrew Pierce B.5 Focus on Waterford - Geraldine Lennon
B.6 Dublin Goldsmiths: a wealth of records - Fiona Fitzsimons

2.00pm-3.15pm
B.7 Broadening Your Horizons: tracking family members in different countries.,Dwight A. Radford B.8 Beginners' National Archives - Gregory O'Connor
B.9 Architects, Engineers and Surveyors - Brendan O Donoghue

3.45pm-5.00pm
B.10 The Registered Papers of the Chief Secretary's Office - Tom Quinlan
B.11 Records of Catholic Priests and Brothers - Kyle J. Betit
B.12 Strategies for Survival: the dispersal of the Drelincourt family - Jane McKee

THURSDAY 20 SEPTEMBER
9.00am-10.15am
C.1 The Gilbert Library for Dublin Sources - Máire Kennedy
C.2 The Voyage and Leaving Ireland - Getting to Australia or America., Richard Reid
C.3 Records of Irish Fraternal, Political and Cultural Societies - Kyle J. Betit

10.45am-12.00
C.4 Hauling the Bride: Irish Marriage Customs and Traditions - Sean Ó Dúill
C.5 Beginners' Internet - Patrick McDonnell
C.6 The Scots-Irish in the Colonial American South - Dwight A. Radford

2.00pm-5.00pm
C.7 Computer Workshops - Elizabeth K. Kerstens & Patrick McDonnell

FRIDAY 21 SEPTEMBER
9.00am-10.15am
D.1 Census Returns for England & Wales: An Overview - Susan B.Lumas
D.2 Focus on Derry/ Londonderry - Brian Mitchell
D.3 Between the Big Wars - U.S. Military Records 1798-1860.,Marie V.Melchiori

10.45am-12.00
D.4 Beginners' National Library - Sandra McDermott
D.5 The Union of Great Britain and Ireland, 1801 - Daire Keogh
D.6 Solicitors' Papers as a Genealogical Source - Gregory O'Connor

2.00pm-3.15pm
D.7 Local History and Family Research - Jacinta Prunty
D.8 Beginners' PRONI - speaker from PRONI
D.9 Freeholders, Freemen and Voting Records - Kyle J. Betit 3.45pm-5.00pm
D.10 Locating your Irish ancestor: Australian sources solve the problem., Perry McIntyre
D.11 Church of Ireland Vestry Minutes - Raymond Refaussé
D.12 The Dublin Fusiliers and the Great War - Tom Burke

5.15pm-6.15pm
D.13 Beginners' Q & A Session

SATURDAY 22 SEPTEMBER
9.00am-10.15am
E.1 Irish Settlers in the Province of Quebec - Gary Schroder
E.2 The Descendants of Charles MacCarthy (b.1837) Tenant Farmer., Tony McCarthy
E.3 Burials and Memorial Inscriptions - M.D. Evans

10.45am-12.00
E.4 Irish Catholics in Great Britain - Michael Gandy
E.5 New Sources for 17th Century Genealogical Research - Brian Donovan
E.6 Genealogical Sources for University Students - Rena Lohan

2.00pm-3.15pm
E.7 Focus on Kerry - Máire Mac Conghail
E.8 The MacFirbis Manuscripts of Genealogies - Conor McHale
E.9 In Service of King and Country - Richard Flatman

3.45pm-5.00pm
E.10 The Records of Richard Elliott, Detroit Passenger Agent - Mary Lou Duncan
E.11 Irish Surnames: Exploding Myths - Paul MacCotter
E.12 The Huguenots of Cork - Alicia St. Leger

5.15pm-6.15pm
General Assembly to pass Congress Resolutions

SUNDAY 23 SEPTEMBER
11.00am-12.15pm
F.1 The Old Age Pension and its Records - M.D. Evans
F.2 Refugees in Ireland from Huguenots to Kosovars - Tony McCarthy
F.3 The Irish in Montreal - Gary Schroder

1.30pm-3.00pm
F.4 Irish Genealogy in 2001: Are things getting better? - Eileen Ó Dúill
F.5 Irish Famine Orphan Girls to Australia 1849-1850 - Richard Reid
F.6 Huguenots - speaker to be announced

3.15pm-4.30pm
F.7 Q & A Session with Panel of Experts

5.00pm - Closing Reception

CONGRESS REGISTRATION FEE

A non-refundable reservation fee is payable by all those wishing to attend the Congress - IR£15.00 for day attenders; IR£45.00 for full accommodation. This will be offset against the fees mentioned below when they become due in April 2001.

VENUE

The Congress returns to Trinity College, site of the 1st and 2nd IGCs, where all lectures will be given. Ancillary events, such as lunches hosted by Supporting Organisations will be at nearby locations.

ACCOMMODATION

Approx. 200 (mainly single) rooms will be available on campus. Applicants must indicate their intention of availing of these in their reservation slip, as there is likely to be a demand for them. The all-in fee for lectures and accommodation for the entire Congress will be about IR£450, to include dinner each evening except Saturday and full breakfast each morning. Lunch vouchers may be purchased at extra cost by those not attending Supporting Organisation lunches. Rates for specific dates will be available nearer the date for those not wishing to attend the entire Congress. Alternative accommodation will be available elsewhere in the city.

DAY ATTENDERS

Those not seeking accommodation will pay a fee of about IR£25 per day or IR£125 for the entire Congress. These figures include tea/coffee breaks, but not meals. Discount for early booking.

GENERAL ASSEMBLIES & CONGRESS RESOLUTIONS

On the Tuesday evening there will be a general assembly to discuss Congress resolutions. Based on suggestions submitted then or during the week, a sub-committee will formulate resolutions to be voted on at a general assembly on the Saturday evening.

LECTURES & COMPUTER WORKSHOPS

There will be a choice of three lectures at each session, so it will be possible to attend 20 of the 60 talks in the entire programme, as well as the computer workshops, the lunch time lectures and the Q&A sessions. The workshops will take place on the Thursday afternoon.

SUPPORTING ORGANISATION LUNCHES

During the Congress some of the Supporting Organisations will host lunches for their members and those wishing to learn of their activities. There will be a guest speaker at each lunch and an attendance fee will be payable to the host body. Full details will be given with the final programme and payment form.

BANQUET & EVENING EVENTS

The Banquet will be held on Saturday evening (dress informal). Attendance is optional and is not covered by the accommodation fee. Those not wishing to attend must make their own arrangements for dinner that evening. Details of the cost of the Banquet and other optional evening events will be given with the final programme and payment form.

EXCURSIONS & PROGRAMME FOR COMPANIONS

As an alternative to the workshops on the Thursday afternoon there will be an optional excursion. Attenders may also opt for some of the features of the alternative programme of sightseeing and daytime activities for companions not interested in genealogy. Details of these, including costs, will appear in the final programme and payment form.

EXHIBITION & BOOKSTALLS

The Congress exhibition will be on display during the week. There will also be facilities for booksellers, commercial exhibitors and societies from Wednesday to Saturday.

RESEARCH ADVISORY SERVICE

As at previous Congresses, a free advisory service for attenders will be provided by members of the Association of Professional Genealogists in Ireland. An appointments system will be arranged and application forms will be distributed with the final programme and payment form. The service will be limited to the first 100 to return applications attached to the payment form.

RESEARCH FACILITIES IN DUBLIN

Congress attenders should note that the national record repositories, all within walking distance of the College, have limited space for researchers and that during the Congress they are likely to be extremely busy. Attenders are advised to allow themselves a few days in Dublin before or after the Congress for research. Those seeking accommodation in Trinity College for additional nights may make their request in the final payment form.

FINAL PROGRAMME & PAYMENT FORM

These will be circulated in April 2001 to those who have paid the reservation fee.
The final payment may be made by credit card through this website

Name: ................................................................................................
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Phone number: ...............................
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I understand that this is a reservation fee only and that it is non-refundable.

I will/will not be accompanied by a spouse/companion interested in the supplementary programme.

Enclosed cheque/bankdraft for IR£__________ payable to Irish Genealogical Congress; also a stamped self-addressed envelope (only within Republic of Ireland) or 2 International Reply Coupons*

PLEASE NOTE: cheques from outside the Republic of Ireland other than Eurocheques cannot be made out in IR£. Feel free to make suggestions, particularly regarding spouse/companions programme. Please return completed form to: Mrs. L. Burke, Hon. Treasurer, IGC, 60 Floraville Avenue, Clondalkin, Dublin 22, Ireland

* International Reply Coupons are available in post offices worldwide

Conclusion

Hope to see you there.

God Bless

Merv
merv@winshop.com.au

Introduction

The 3rd December is known in Australia as Eureka Day. On this day Australians commemorate the "Battle of Eureka" which occurred on the Victorian goldfields in 1854. This was when British troops and Victorian Police attacked and murdered peaceful protesters. At least 27 men lost their lives including 5 soldiers, the other 22 were civilians and miners including 11 miners from Ireland.

Those killed were

BOYLE Felix Pvte 12th Reg.b Monagh Ireland, d 10Jan1855 from gunshot wounds, aged 32 BROWN James
CLIFTON George
CROW John
DIAMOND Martin, d 03 Dec 1854 (shot inside his shop) b Castle Clare Co.Clare
DONAGHEY George
EMMARMAN William
GITTENS Patrick
HENFIELD Thomas
HYNES John
JULIEN Robert
McGLYNN Edward
MOORE Thaddeus d 03Dec1854,aged 21, miner, b County Clare
MULLINS
O'NEIL Thomas
PARKER Thomas
POWELL Henry
QUIN Edward
ROBERTSON John
RONEY Michael Pve 40thReg. born Ireland, d 03Dec1854 aged 21
ROSS Captain Charles
ROWLANDS Llewellyn
THONEN Edward
WALL Joseph Pvte 40th Reg. Westmore Somerset, d 03Dec1854, aged20
WEBB William Pvte d 05Dec1854 from gunshot wounds, aged 19
WISE Captain Henry Christopher, Capt 40th Reg. d 21 Dec 1854

About 150 men were arrested but only thirteen were brought to court and they were all acquitted. They were -:

Timothy HAYES
James Macfie CAMPBELL
Raffaello CARBONI
Jacob SORENSON
John MANNING
John PHELAN
Thomas DIGMAN
John JOSEPHS
James BEATTIE
William MOLLOY
Jan VENNIK
Michael TUOHY
Henry REED

ref-: "Irish At Eureka" by C.H.CURRY

One of the 150 arrested and released without trial was John LYNCH, an Irish catholic from Galway. His son Arthur, born in Victoria in 1861, went on to command an Irish force that fought for the Boers against the English in the South African War of 1899-1902.

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

1860 Worcestor Census - The Irish
http://carver.holycross.edu/~bbatty/worcester/irishcensus.htm

Chronicon - An Electronic History Journal
http://www.ucc.ie/ucc/chronicon/

My Galway Ancestors
http://irishfamilytree.homestead.com/galway.html

Irish Parish List
http://www.geocities.com/emerald_ancestry/towns.htm

Irish Links
http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/irelinks.htm

Irish Hedge School
http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/ireschool.htm

Irish ejectment books
http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/eject.htm

Site of the Month

Irish Road rules
http://www.csn.ul.ie/~robert/road/road.html

First published in the year 1999

This CD-ROM may be purchased by email for about A$70.00

Contents

Over 70,000 individual records Over 100,000 names Over 10,000 surnames and their variants Over 1,000 different occupations.

The documents listed are an index to the records at the National Archives of Ireland only, taken from all of the 32 counties. They are -:

Wills
Letters of Administration
Marriage contracts
Others

They have been compiled from the National Archives' Card Catalogue and Contemporaneous Indexes.

The catalogue includes-:
Testamentary documents
Charitable Donations and Bequests
Will Extracts
Crossie Abstracts
Jennings Abstracts
Thrift Abstracts

The indexes include-:

Inland Revenue Administration Registers 1828-1839
Inland Revenue Will Registers 1828-1839

Viewing

This CD-ROM will run under Windows 95, Windows 98 and Windows NT only.

To view this CD-ROM your computer will need Internet Explorer 5.x or Netscape Navigator 4.x or higher. It can be viewed off-line and one only needs to go on-line to order documents.

Changing Browsers

This CD-ROM has Internet Explorer for its browser.

My computer is about four years old with a Netscape browser so I changed over to Internet Explorer.

To convert your browser to use Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.x . Go to start, then settings, control panel, internet options, connections, Lan settings, by-pass proxy server, ok, programmes, click box "Internet Explorer should check to see whether it is the default browser", click ok.

The instructions say that this cdrom rom will work with Netscape Navigator 4.7 I have Netscape Navigator 3.1 so I went to <http://www.tucows.com/> and downloaded Netscape Navigator 4.7 This took, all up, about 2 hours

I tried this cdrom on a computer with Windows 98, and all went well., no adjustment to the browser settings were required. I also tried it on a Toshiba Satellite 200CDS Laptop and all went well.

The above instructions are my own and are a lot different to those of the publisher and only came about by a lot of perseverance.

Searching Index of Irish Wills

There is a "standard search"., an "expert search" and a "soundex search" and a "table of contents." Researchers should search all four categories for surnames. Sometimes there are two or more different surnames mentioned in a Will and also there are two parties to a marriage contract.

Map of Ireland

There is also on the CD-ROM a map of Ireland published in 1906 by the Church of Ireland showing diocesan boundaries. It is possible to zoom in on this map.

Future Developments

This is the first of many CD-ROMS to be published. Upcoming titles include

(1) The Petitions for the Release of William Smith O'Brien, 1848-49
(2) The Calendars of Wills and Administrations, 1858-1922

Ordering Documents

Copies of documents may be ordered on-line, each item costing US$20.00., i.e., A$40.00. or about NZ$50.00

Recommendations.

I believe the publishers should write more detailed instructions to help the viewer change browsers. Most family historians that I know would not be capable of changing their browers without expert guidance.

There is another CD-ROM on Irish Wills produced in Canada which is an inferior product. I believe Eneclann should be more aggressive in their marketing to head off this competition. Perhaps an email newsletter to researchers registering their interest in Eneclanns future products would help.

Conclusions

The publishers should be applauded for compiling this information and bringing it to the attention of the researcher. It should appeal to the one-name researchers and to the professional genealogist.

Merv Rossiter
03 Dec 2000
merv@winshop.com.au

Gleanings From the Internet

Wills, Post 1858

Civil courts were established by an act of Parliament in 1857 and began functioning the following year. The long-standing church courts were abolished and replaced with a Principal Probate Registry in Dublin and eleven district registries. The Principal Registry could be used by anyone in the country and took precedence. It also served as the district registry for Dublin and a large area around it--Dublin, Meath, Kildare, Wicklow, and part of Offaly (formerly King's) counties.

The other registry names, roughly north to south, were: Londonderry, Belfast, Armagh, Cavan, Ballina, Tuam, Mullingar, Kilkenny, Limerick, Waterford, Cork.

The probate system changed ten years later, and in 1867, an archive for Irish records and manuscripts was established--the Public Record Office of Ireland. The decision was made to transfer probate records to the Public Record Office once the records were twenty years old. Each district registry was to keep will and grant books, into which the original wills and grants of probate had been copied; however, the Public Record Office was to serve as the repository for the books of the Dublin registry.

As a result of these policies and actions, all original documents and all but a few will books for the Principal Probate Registry and the Dublin district, up to the beginning of the 20th century, were lost in the 1922 fire. Original wills and grants were lost for the eleven district registries, but the transcriptions remained and had been retained in regional offices. Today, these transcriptions are kept by the National Archives in Dublin and the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland in Belfast.

There is another resource. Every year alphabetical summaries were prepared, properly called the "Calendars of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration Made in the Principal Registry and in the Several District Registries 1858-1920." For each grant of probate, these volumes show the name, address, and occupation of the deceased; the date of probate and registry; the date and place of death; the name and address of the executor or executrix (or person to whom probate was granted); and the value of the estate. In some instances, relationships are also given. For the period 1858 to 1877, there is a consolidated index. A letter of administration was granted when the deceased had no will (died intestate).

Much of this material has been filmed and deposited in the Family History Library in Salt Lake City. The films can circulate to Family History Centers. The "Calendars of Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration" are available up to 1920 and can be found in the Family History Library Catalog (FHLC) under Ireland - Probate Records - Indexes. Other probate materials up to the late 19th century are best searched for under the county (Ireland - [county name] - Probate Records). This makes it unnecessary to know the name of the corresponding district registry. The FHLC, through the title of the record and the listing of where it can be found in the catalog, makes it obvious which district the record is in, and the component parts of that district.

The consolidated index for the "Calendars of Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration, 1858 to 1877" is on three microfilm reels. Keep in mind that until 1864, wills and administrations were separate, making it necessary to look in two lists for each year.

A modern search (generally after about 1895) requires a visit to Ireland or the help of an agent in Dublin or Belfast. Straightforward explanations of working on location can be found in "Tracing Irish Ancestors" (P. Gorry and M. MacConghail, HarperCollins, 1999) and in "Tracing Your Ancestors in Northern Ireland" (I. Maxwell, The Stationery Office, 1997). Because of the 20-year delay in transfer, wills from 1900 up to the 1980s for Northern Ireland can be consulted at PRONI, and wills for Ireland after 1904 are at the National Archives in Dublin.

Probate records are worth considering even if the likelihood of a will seems far-fetched. As long as there is some chance of probate, 20 years of alphabetical "Calendars" can be searched with three films--a search that would involve about ten films in the indexes to civil deaths. Another bonus is that these probate calendars pre-date the civil death indexes (starting in 1864) by six years. The extra information in the calendars may be the difference in picking out your ancestor from others of the same name, and it may therefore help you obtain the death record as well. If probate occurred at a district registry, then there is an excellent chance of finding a copy of the will.

For those whose Irish ancestors emigrated after about 1840, there is the possibility that a member of the family who was still in Ireland--whether a direct or collateral relation--made a will. Such a document could contain relevant information on family members. So, because of the possibilities, and for reasons of access, it is a good idea to include post-1857 probate records in your Irish research.

(Look out for the new CD-ROM by Eneclann., Ed.)

Computer Corner

Freeware and Stuff
http://www.freewareandstuff.com/browseplugs.html

Internet Explorer (IE) Web Accessories http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/IE/WebAccess/default.asp

Netscape Plug-in Page
http://home.netscape.com/plugins/index.html?cp=hom08t8

Moochers Freeware
http://www.moochers.com/

The Freeware Publishing Site
http://www.sherine.com/freeware/Freeware.htm

RealAudio
http://www.realaudio.com/

Macromedia
http://www.macromedia.com/

Adobe Acrobat Reader
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/main.html

Bookmark of the Month

Family History Library Catalogue - Search Engine http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalogue.asp

Bits and Pieces

Is your family tree evergreen or deciduous?

Parting Thought

"Never ask a man if he comes from Ireland. If he does he will tell you. If he does not, why humiliate him?" With apologies to Canon Sydney Smith (scholar and humorist 1771-1845)

Merry Xmas

Merv Rossiter
merv@winshop.com.au

http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter (Merv's homepage)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv (Rossiter newsletters)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/mottos.htm (Irish Family Mottos)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/gcags/irish (Irish newsletters)

Editorial

Does Ireland need her own Poet Laureate ?

Since 1668 there have been eighteen poet laureates appointed by the Lord Chamberlain of Great Britain. Only two of them were Irish born.

The first was Nahum Tate who was born in Dublin in 1652 and educated at Trinity College. He died in 1715 in London and was buried at St.Paul's Cathedral. He was Poet Laureate from 1692 to 1715.

The second was Cecil Day-Lewis who was born in Ballintubbert in Queens County (now County Laois) in 1904. As a child he was educated in England. He was Poet Laureate from 1968 to 1972. He died in 1972.

There have been four Irish born recipients of the Nobel Award for Literature since its inception in 1900. They were William Butler Yeats in 1923., George Bernard Shaw in 1925, Samuel Beckett in 1969, and Seamus Heaney in 1995.

It is important to distinguish between who was a poet laureate and who received the Nobel prize. Some Nobel prize recipients are named poet laureate in error.

Ireland is renowned for its writers and poets and the Irish people certainly have the gift of the gab. "We are the greatest talkers since the Greeks" said Oscar Wilde. And of course many gifted Irish talkers have put their words to the pen.

So why don't the Irish people have their own Poet Laureate appointed by their Government.? The United States of America have their own Poet Laureate as does some of her own States. New Zealand has her own Poet Laureate too.

I believe the Irish people need their own Poet Laureate to bring to the world the best of their culture and to show to the world what good writing is about.

If Ireland appointed her own Poet Laureate then perhaps Australia would follow suit.

"The Lake Isle of Innisfreee" by William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)

County Sligo is one of the most engaging counties in Ireland. Within a small area it has a fine variety of mountain, lake and coastal scenery. In the west of the county the Ox mountains form a background to the coastal plain, while north of Sligo town the landscape is dominated by steep-sided and flat-topped limestone hills. The coast is main low-lying and is fringed by sandy beaches and low cliffs. Near Sligo town, in beautiful Lough Gill, is the tiny island of Innisfree which was immortalised in the poem by William Butler Yeats. The island is only about an acre or so in area. Yeats wrote about it simply because he liked the sound of the name.

Sligo is a county in Connacht province of Ireland, on the Atlantic Ocean. Owned by the McDermott family until the 12th century, Sligo was subsequently under the rule of the De Burgos, O'Donnells and O'Dowds before being chartered as a county in 1579. The painter Jack Butler Yeats and his brother, poet William Butler Yeats, spent much time in Sligo as youths.

William Yeats Butler was not a Sligo man, but his wife came from there. He is buried in the country churchyard at Drumcliffe, just north of Sligo near Ben Bulben which he chose as his resting place. His epitaph reads -:

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

Emigration (Ireland)
The Belfast Telegraph and the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/emigration/menu.htm

Index to the Births, Marriages, & Deaths
in Anthologia Hibernica, 1793 - 1794
http://home.att.net/~cmlabath/anthologia_hibernica.htm

Marriages 1771-1812
http://home.att.net/~labaths/irish_marriages.htm

Paul McBride homepage
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pmcbride/rfc/toc.htm

Cork College Electronic books
http://www.ucc.ie/celt/list.html

The Irish Cottage
http://communities.msn.com/TheIrishCottage/homepage

Interactive Street Map of Dublin
http://www.visit.ie/dublin/map/dbln_map_d.html

Donegal Genealogy Resources
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/

Irish Search Engine
http://interactive.iol.ie/SearchIreland/main/

Site of the Month

The Quiet Man - The Storyline of the Film
http://www.filmsite.org/quie.html

The film "The Quiet Man" starring John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara was made in the village of Cong near Coonemara (just north of Galway) in 1951.

The storyline of the film is all of twenty two pages. (It tis, it tis, it tis)

LDS Microfiche

1842-3 Post Office General Directory, County and City of Cork
Film No 824232

Computer Corner

English Origins, the on-line data base of key English record collections is now up and running at -: http://www.englishorigins.com/
This has been a joint effort betweeb the Society of Genealogists in London (SOG) and Origins.

Containing a total of 1 million names from 1568 to 1850, the available collections are:

* Vicar-General Marriage License Allegations Index, 1694-1850
* Faculty Office Marriage License Allegations Index, 1701-1850
* Bank of England Will Extracts Index, 1717-1845
* Archdeaconry Court of London Wills Index, 1700-1807
* London City Apprenticeship Abstracts, 1568-1850
* London Consistory Court Depositions Index, 1700-1713

More collections are on the way in the coming year.

Try the free surname search first before paying for access. If you decide to subscribe, for about A$16, (6 English pounds), you can search the collections and download up to 150 records. There is a 48 hour time limit.

Many Irish records are held at SOG

Gleanings From the Internet

The Hotel des Invalides in Paris was built by the King of France to accommodate old soldiers from his army who may have been wounded and fallen on hard times. Ex-soldiers were entitled to present themselves at the hospital with certificates of qualification to apply for entry or assistance.

The online database contains many Irish names because of the numbers of Irishmen serving in the French army. However, apart from the necessity to understand French, records dating from the 17th and 18th century are also full of variant spellings of names of people and places. The following list has been edited with addition of some names and is intended as a helpful guide to cope with some of these. There are details of the individual soldier's military career and wounds etc. in the database, but no further family or biographical data.

Les Invalides is now part of the administrative structure of Paris and the courtyards there are used for official functions such as medal presentations, etc. Napoleon's tomb, a military museum and other monuments are also housed in the area. It is well worth a visit.

Walter Durkan [Durcan], b.1658 Bohola (?), admitted 1715, d.1726
Therence Maglaghlen [Terence Magloughlin], b.1662 Castlebar, admitted 1723
Richard Barette [Barrett], b.1685 Belase (Foxford?), d.1738
Jean Mouloye [John Mulloy], b.1667, shoemaker by trade, admitted 1696, d.1697
Michel Higuin [Michael Higgins], b.1631, married in Ireland, admitted 1703
Georges Fleming, b.1685 Lolcline (?), married in Brussels, admitted 1711, d.1735
Bryan Donde [Brian Dowd?], b. town of Mayo, admitted 1738

Jean May [John Maye], b.1672, admitted 1693, d.1721
Donall Dolan, b.1665, shoemaker by trade, married in Ireland, admitted 1693, d.1698
Theodore Macdanahé [MacDonagh], b.1638 (Sligo town?),
................married in Ireland, admitted 1708, d.1712
Jacques Finy [James Feeney], b.1667 Drumcline (Drumcliffe?), admitted 1708, d.1719
Thomas Gallagher, b.1682 (Sligo town?), admitted 1729, deserter 1730
Maurice Macgdanagh [MacDonagh], b.1667, married in Paris, admitted and discharged 1700 Guillaume Goüanne [William Gowan, McGowan, Smith], admitted age 68, d.1718
Therence Gohine [Terence Gowan, McGowan, Smith], b.1665 (Sligo town?), gardener by trade, ...............married in Paris, admitted 1700, discharged for having false certificate 1701
Dominique Macdonagh [Dominic MacDonagh], nd (c.1696 age 40)
Dalson Conor [O'Connor], b.1670, admitted 1698, d.1704
Martin Harte, called St.Martin, b.1671, wigmaker by trade, admitted 1703, d.1715
Meils Finigane [Miles Finegan], b.1658 Achonry, storekeeper by trade,
.........married in Paris, admitted 1713, d.1743
Robert Hart, b.1666 (Sligo town?), married in Cambray, admitted 1714, d.1719
Nicolas Plunkett, b.Markree, nd (c.1723)
Daniel Brenan [Brennan], b.Sligo town, admitted 1722
Theodore Cavanagh, b.1671 (Sligo town?), admitted 1721
Edmond Beolan [Boland], b.(Sligo town?), admitted 1721
Bernard Keyral [Carroll?], b.(Sligo town?), admitted 1736
Bernard Brunon [Brennan], b.1661 Mieuton (?), admitted 1723
Thomas Nisbette [Nesbitt], b.1650 (Sligo town?), admitted 1700, discharged for having false .............certificate 1701, presented good certificate 1706, d.1733

Jacques Berry, (James Berry), nd (c.1713
Jacques O'Brien (James O'Brien, b.Lokerm (Limerick?) 1670, given money 1693
Bernard Rourke (Bernard or Brian O'Rourke), b.Dromahaire 1650, admitted 1706, d.1731
Jean Courine (John Curran), b.1662, admitted 1715
Edmond Joyce, b.Leitrim town 1675, married in Paris, admitted 1729, d.1742
Jean Roirk (John O'Rourke), b.1643, married in Ireland, admitted 1700, d.1700
Guillaume Moran (William Moran), b.1656, given money 1698

For Natives of County Tipperary see-: "Irish Veterans in the Invalides : the Tipperary Contingent" by Eoghan O'Annrachain
in the Tipperary Historical Journal-1998
65 names listed.

For further details (in French)
See online database at:
http://www.geneactes.org/hoteldesinvalides/

The Belfast Telegraph and the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI) have come together to create a site focusing on Irish emigration in the 1800s."Using letters, diary extracts, and illustrations as source material, [the] exhibition will trace the steps of the emigrants, from their decision to leave ......... ....to their arrival in 'the promised land.'" The questions of why they left, how many obtained passage, what the trip was like, and what awaited them are addressed in the site, and there is a special section with charts and statistics. Overall, the site is an interesting read for those looking for background information on their Irish emigrant ancestors.

An in-depth article on Irish Heritage Centres appears in the November edition of the Global Gazette, Canada's On-line Family History Magazine. Go to -: http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb62.htm

Bits and Pieces

Where does a thirsty Irishman go to get his water? From a Crom well

Parting Thought

"We are all born mad. Some remain so."
from "Waiting for Godot" by Samuel Beckett

Merv Rossiter
merv@winshop.com.au

http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter (Merv's homepage)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv (Rossiter newsletters)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/mottos.htm (Irish Family Mottos)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/gcags/irish (Irish newsletters)

Editorial

Obituaries are usually a great source for family history information. Some can be found by using the "google" search engine. Just type in the search box "Irish obituaries" and you may be pleasantly surprised.

When an obituary for Adeline O'Rourke, Princess of Breffni, "crossed my desk" my first comment to myself was "is this for real". I just had to check her out.

Research Essay

The following obituary for Adeline Ellen O'Rourke was published in the "The Glebe" Sydney newspaper 15 March 1989, p29

"A Sad Day For The Local Irish - A long time resident of Balmain, Her Royal Highness, Adeline Ellen Dowager Princess of Breffni, also known as Adeline O'Rourke died on February 5, aged 84. She was buried on Feb 9 (1989)

Balmain police flew the Irish flag of Tara and the House of Breffni banner at half-mast from the station flag pole and held back the traffic to let the long funeral cortege pass through Balmain's narrow streets to Rookwood Cemetery.

Breffni is in Ireland but for some time the Princess Adeline has lived with her son, his Royal Highness Colm O'Rourke, Prince of Breffni, firstly at Mort Street Balmain, then in Darling Street and latterly in Glebe.

Princess Adeline's full list of titles was Queen of Connacht., Countess of Leitrim., Princess of the Bloodroyal of the Court of Tara., Knight Grand Commander of the Connaght Knights of the Sword., Grand Knight Commander of the Most Illustrious Order of the Knights of Breffni., Knight Grand Commander of the Knights of the Royal Branch of Emain Macha., Knight Grand Commander of the Knights of the Red Branch., Queen of the Royal and Garelic Order of the Stars of Tara., Chieftainess of the Name of O'Rourke of the house of Breffni."

A search of the Sydney Morning Herald carried the following additional information.

"Loving wife of his Royal Highness Hugh Kirby O'Rourke, Prince of Breffni (deceased) and mother of Their Royal Highnesses Patricia, Sheila, Barry (deceased), Colm and John. In her 84th year. God Save Ireland."

A search of the Rookwood Cemetery records and the New South Wales Birth Death and Marriage records revealed the following information.

Adeline Ellen LONGMORE was born in Narrandera, New South Wales, in 1905, daughter of John and Elizabeth LONGMORE. In 1928 she married Hugh Kirby O'ROURKE at Junee, in New South Wales

Hugh Kirby O' ROURKE was born in Young in New South Wales in 1906, son of James Patrick O'ROURKE and Rose Dymphna HALLYNAN. He died in 1950 aged 43 and was buried at Rookwood. I found two death notices and a funeral notice in the Sydney Morning Herald but no obituary and certainly no mention of any hereditary titles

James Patrick O'ROURKE was born in 1875 at Newtown, Sydney, son of Francis O'ROURKE and Catherine LANIGAN. He died in 1952 and was buried at Rookwood. Again I found two death notices and a funeral notice in the Sydney Morning Herald, no obituary and no mention of any titles.

I should point out the obvious here, by mentioning that Hugh Kirby O'Rourke predeceased his father so if there were any hereditary titles then they would go to the next surviving brother of Hugh which was Brian O'Rourke.

Was this obituary a hoax or was Adaline O'ROURKE suffering from delusions of grandeur in her old age.?

My research continues.

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

Irish in the British Army
http://www.themestream.com/articles/113089.html

Tracing Irish Ancestors
http://homepage.eircom.net/~seanjmurphy/dir/guide.htm

Tipperary Emigrant Indexes http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~maddenps/TIPPEM.htm

Emerald Isle.Com
http://emrld-isle.nstemp.com

Ireland - heraldry
http://www.heraldica.org/topics/national/ireland.htm

Chief Herald's web pages
http://www.nli.ie/fr_offi.htm
(see under "Irish Heraldic Authority")

The Irish Pensioners of William III's Huguenot Regiments, 1702. http://home.att.net/~cmlabath/huguenotpensioners.htm

Irish Migration Centre
http://www.irishmigration.com/default.asp

National Library of Ireland
http://www.nli.ie

Armagh sources for genealogy http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/ulster/index_ar.html

County Armagh Sources
http://members.aol.com/Manus/nirarmagh.html

Civil Parishes of County Armagh
http://www.uhf.org.uk/armagh_map.htm

County Armagh GenWeb and Query Board
http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm/index.htm

NIDEX - Northern Ireland Index
http://www.nidex.com

Belfast Newsletter
http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/bnl/ I

Site of the Month

Churches in Northern Ireland
http://www.kingdom-come.org/church/north.htm

Computer Corner

Ireland Pocket PC Users Group http://communities.msn.co.uk/IPUGTheIrelandPocketPCUsersGroup/homepage

Gleanings from the Internet

Clive Staples LEWIS, Jacks or Jack to his family, was born 29 November 1898 at Strandtown on the eastern side of Belfast second son and child of Albert James LEWIS, a solicitor, (1863-1929) and Flora Augusta HAMILTON (1862-1908). His brother Warren Hamilton LEWIS as born 16 June 1895

Lewis was an author, academic and Christian apologist and one of the most successful writers of the twentieth century. Some of his works are "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" (the first of the seven "Chronicles of Narnia")., "Screwtape Letters"., "The Allegory of Love"., and "Out of the Silent Planet"., the first of the space trilogies.

His autobiography published in 1955 is titled "Surprised by Joy"

Lewis was a brilliant Oxford fellow and Cambridge professor. His idea of Heaven was that "Oxford should be lifted and placed in the middle of County Down". His favourite watering hole was The Old Inn, 15 Main Street, Crawfordsburn, County Down, the oldest pub in Ireland built sometime before 1614

C.S.LEWIS died 22 November 1963. He was buried at the Holy Trinity Church in Headington Quarry, Oxford.

Further information is available from the C.S.Lewis Centenary Group at http://www.d-n-a.net/users/cslewis/

Read about the "C.S.Lewis Trail in Belfast and North Down.

Information is also available in the magazine "in Britain" (The Magazine of the British Tourist Authority"), November 1998., website and index at -:
http://www.dlc.fi/~hurmari

Irish Journals - Genealogical, Historical and Archaeological

Many historical and archaeology journals contain genealogical information.

Information on the following journals is on-line at
http://www.xs4all.nl/~tbreen/journals.html

Annelecta Hibernica
About 37 issues have been published since 1930. This journal is on sale at Government Publications, Molesworth Street, Dublin., or at Irish Manuscripts Commission, 73 Merrion Square, Dublin.
http://www.irmss.ie/info.html

Irish At Home and Abroad
http://www.IHAonline.com
http://ihaonline.com/index2.htm

Irish Roots
Belgrave Publications Belgrave Avenue Cork Ireland
email-: irishrts@iol.ie
http://www.iol.ie/~irishrts/
Available Queensland State Library (MAG 929.3)

The Irish Ancestor
The Irish Ancestor is available from Miss Rosemary Ffolliott, Glebe House, Fethard, Co.Tipperary, Ireland. The first half of the run is only available on microfiche,, but the second half may still be available in hard copy from Miss Ffolliott. lso available Queensland State Library (MAG 929.105)

The Irish Genealogist
The Irish Genealogical Research Society publishes an annual journal entitled the "Irish Genealogist" . also bi-annual newsletter. The Society's library is located at the Challoner Club, 59/61 Pont Street, London SW1, and is open Saturdays 2.30 pm to 5.30 pm.

The Irish Link
The Irish Family History Magazine-Australia and New Zealand. ISSN 0814-5482 Founded June 1984 Address - Irish Link, P.O.Box 135, South Melbourne, Victoria, Australia 3205 or - Irish Link, PO Box 370, Thames, New Zealand
email-: gwenoc@netspace.net.au
http://www.netspace.net.au/~gwenoc
Available Queensland State Library (MAG 929 109415) 7

Familia
Ulster Genealogical and Historical Guild Ulster Historical Foundation 12 College Square East Belfast BT1 6DD

Bits and Pieces

"A man is banished from Scotland for a great crime, from England for a small one, and from Ireland, morally speaking, for no crime at all. 60.1% of convicts were born in England, 4.9% in Scotland and 33.9% in Ireland. A large percentage of these came from urban areas." From "Convict Workers" by Nicholas - (on convicts transported to Australia.)

O'Hart's two volumes of "IRISH PEDIGREES" are now available on one CDROM for about US$33 Check out the site's other interesting catalogue items at; http://genealogy.org/~ajmorris/catalog/catalog.htm#I

Parting Thought

Dum Vivimus Vivamus - While we live, let us live.

End of Newsletter No.17 - April 2001

Merv Rossiter
merv@winshop.com.au

http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter (Merv's homepage)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv (Rossiter newsletters)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/mottos.htm (Irish Family Mottos)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/gcags/irish (Irish newsletters)

Editorial

Believe it or not, but there are rules which public speakers should follow and the most important rule that I adhere to is that speakers who address family history groups should provide a full set of written notes to the organiser who arranges for copies to be given to the delegates prior to the address. I believe that this is most important because there is usually a wealth of information to digest at such meetings and far too much information for the delegate to write down even in short hand.

At the meeting and after the notes have been handed out, the speaker should then
(1) acknowledge "the chair",
(2) begin with an "icebreaker" or funny story (optional)
(3) define the subject he is going to talk about
(4) talk about that subject
(5) sum up.

All this should take about 45 minutes leaving 15 minutes for question time. If there is any departure from this format the organiser should be consulted so delegates can be advised.

The organiser too, has obligations to the speaker and to the delegates.

A lecturn with microphone that works efficiently should be provided A small table and chair should be near the lecturn and on the table should be a jug of fresh water with a clean glass. A large clock should be visible to the speaker and to delegates A roving microphone that works should be available to delegates for question time. Make sure that there is a question time and make sure there is plenty of time available for questions.

All these things sound fairly simple but it is surprising how some of them are overlooked.

The best value of a family history address, apart from the written notes, is usually at question time so it pays to do some homework beforehand and have your questions ready.

I believe that, today, the information delegates are looking for are, internet sites, LDS fiche numbers, LDS film numbers, microfiche reference numbers, cdrom references and book references. The last thing they want is to be referred to a professional genealogist or to a record office that charges "an arm and a leg."

I repeat what I said at the beginning. The most important part of a family history lecture, in my opinion, is the provision of a full set of notes. If there are several speakers on the day then these notes are subsequently published as the "proceedings" of that event so there is a permanent record available.

When I give a lecture you get what I advocate. You get a full set of notes which contain internet sites, LDS microfiche and film numbers and cdrom and book references.

Papers I have compiled are as follows-:

(1) How to Find Your Irish Ancestors
(2) Computer Research and Family History

More are under preparation

I usually make a point of boycotting family history meetings unless a written paper is provided.

"English Records For Irish Family History"
by Michael Gandy

This paper was read to the Gold Coast and Albert Genealogical Society's seminar 12 May 2001. No paper was presented to delegates but a copy was published in the New Zealand Genealogist Mar/Apr 1997 which your editor fortuitously has a copy of.

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

The following is courtesy of Global Gazette, <http://GlobalGazette.net> a newsletter published in Canada.

Locate Place Names in Ireland
http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb49.htm

Irish Records at the Family History Library
http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb49.htm

Libraries and Archives in Dublin, Ireland
http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb47.htm

Irish Genealogical Societies and Periodicals
http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb45.htm

Irish Heritage Centres
http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb62.htm

Northern Ireland Selected Resources
http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb60.htm

What Does it Mean to be "Irish"?
http://globalgazetter.net/gazkb/gazkb53.htm

Soft Spot For all Things Irish
http://globalgazette.net/gazsd/gazsd51.htm

New Books For Irish Research
http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb43.htm

Sources and Strategies for Determining an Irish Place of Origin http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb43.htm

Taking a Genealogical Research Trip To Ireland
http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb39.htm

Using the Internet for Irish Research
http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb37.htm

What To Do When Your Irish Parish Registers Start Too Late http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb35.htm

Irish Research - Suggestions for the Beginner
http://globalgazette.net/gazkb/gazkb33.htm

Cromwellian Settlement of Ireland
http://globalgazette.net/List001/list41.htm

1851 Census Returns for Ireland on CD ROM
http://globalgazette.net/gazrt/gazrt26a.htm

Griffiths Valuation CD - A Review
http://globalgazette.net/gaztec/gaztec7.htm

Saint Molly's Day

Molly Malone was buried Dublin 13th June 1699 aged 29
What will you be doing on the 13th of June?

Site of the Month

Belfast Newsletter
http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/bnl/1

Computer Corner

Outlook Express - Making it Safe
http://www.bowlay.com/oe-safe.htm

Computer Links
http://www.comp-links.8m.com/

Book Review

"Was Wexford Betrayed To Cromwell ? - The Truth"
by Kathleen A Browne published 1940

History books show that Captain James Stafford betrayed the people of Wexford when he opened the town gate at Wexford in 1649 to let in Cromwell's soldiers. This small book of 40 pages is an attempt to exonerate Stafford

The founder of the Stafford family was Robert de Stafford who resided at Stafford Castle in Buckinghamshire in England. A descendant became the Duke of Buckinghamshire upon his marriage to the heiress of the son of Edward the Third. The Irish branch of the Stafford family was established with the anglo norman invasion between 1169 and 1172. They were granted land in the Barony of Forth and established themselves at Ballymacane near Tacumshane. In the early 13th century the Staffords built their first castle at Ballymacane. In latter years they built Stonebridge Castle and Ballyconnor Castle. In 1570 Dionisius Stafford and his wife Katarina Sinot built or reconstructed the hall to Ballyconnor Castle which became their home. Dionsisius had a brother Richard who was the great grand father of Captain James Stafford.

The rebellion began in 1641 because of religious persecution and confiscation of land. Five armies were formed., two Protestant factions, two catholic and one Scottish Prebyterian. They formed the Confederation of Kilkenny. But they could not agree. Had the fives armies cooperated with each other then they might have defeated Cromwell. A "peace settlement" was reached between the five armies in 1647 but The Nuncio opposed it and issued a decree of excommunication which was flouted by many, making Cromwell's task much easier.

Captain James Stafford, Governor of the Castle of Wexford.received his commission 16 Dec 1648 from the Supreme Council of Kilkenny

Cromwell began his five day massacre of Drogheda on the 12th September 1649. He entered Wexford County on the 27th.

Colonel David Sinnott became Governor of Wexford Town 27 September and arrived with 500 men. Ormonde sent another1000

On the 2nd October, Cromwell captured the fort at Rosslare and the next day summoned the town of Wexford to surrender.

Sinnott sought more resources from Ormonde and he arrived Monday 08 Oct with 500 but the towns people refused to admit him. He was attacked by Cromwells troops and he withdrew to Kilkenny

On the 11th Oct 1649 Cromwell attacked Wexford Castle with cannon where-upon Stafford surrendered the castle hoping to save Sir Arthur Aston's effects. Sir Ralph Aston's father, Sir Arthur Aston was killed at Drogheda. Sir Ralph had entrusted his father's effects to Stafford for save keeping. This is the reason that Stafford capitulated.

There is no proof of treachery. The story that Stafford sold the castle for £500 is a pure invention. The rumour appears to have started in 1708 nearly 59 years after the event

Colonel David Sinnott was wounded in the head and drowned while attempting to escape

This is a remarkable little book because it contains many copies of official correspondence between Cromwell and Sinnott and others, as well as copies of eye witness accounts of the massacre.

The book concludes with four pages devoted to Stafford pedigree charts from the Heraldic Visitation to Wexford of 1618

*STAFFORD. Hamond m c1516 Joan FITZHENRY
**Richard STAFFORD m c1547 Ellen BROWN
***James STAFFORD b 1550 m Katerina BUTLER
****Richard STAFFORD b c1578, d1624 m Anstace SUTTON
*****James STAFFORD b1608, ........Governor Wexford Castle 1649, assumed dead 1654. u/m

Also from the Pedigree Charts - Heraldic Visitation to Wexford 1618
William ROSSITER of Bargy m c1580 Marion STAFFORD b1554 d/o Dionsius STAFFORD and Katerina SINOT

Thomas ROSSITER of Rathmacknee m c1540 Catherine STAFFORD of Stonebridge Castle

Robert ROSSITER of Bargy m c1630 Ellen Stafford d/o John STAFFORD and Alison DEVEREUX

Obituary - Sean Ruad

John Maurice Broderick passed away in early April. He wrote under the pen-name Sean Ruad.

The following is a copy of his last message to the newsgroup "soc.genealogy ireland".

A subscriber, Bob Burton wrote -:

My Gt.Grandfather was born in 1870 in Mary's Market, Belfast. Can anyone tell me where this is situated.? I have found a number of other streets where he lived on a 1930 Belfast Map but cannot find this one. Can anyone help.?

Sean replied -:

Mo

I have found Mary's Market on an old Belfast Street List - it is listed as part of Belfast Urban No.5 District, Woodvale D.E.D. - it is not marked on my Belfast map but would seem to be located in the area bounded by Peter's Hill to the north, Milfield (St.?) to the east, and Divis St. on the south - hope this is of some help.

Regards, SeanRuad- *(:-)near Boston
Project Director for_The IreAtlas Project_ Phase II,
Part 1 (Town and Townlands) is now complete -
You are invited to visit our web site at http://www.seanruad.com.
COMMENTS WELCOME

Of the BRODERICKS of Ballymalis, Beaufort, Co Kerry, near the castle, and the WHELTON's of Desert, Clonakilty, Co Cork, near the quarry -

email : seanruad@world.std.com
tel: 7 days (EST 7.00am to4pm only) (781) 646-3236
snail mail : 1424 Massachusetts Ave., Arlington., MA. 02476-4134 USA

Let his last message be his memorial.
May well his epitaph read -:

"He mapped the pedigrees of the Irish" (Ed.,)

Cemetery Transcriptions

From Ireland
http://www.from-ireland.net/contents/graves.htm
One of the best sites for cemetery transcriptions

Cemeteries Worldwide
http://www.interment.net

Ireland - Cemetery Records
http://www.scotlandsclans.com/ircemeteries.htm

Gleanings From the Internet

Outrage Papers are part of the Official Papers now held at the National Archives.

Official Papers, which were a class of incoming correspondence to the chief secretary's office, cover the period from 1790 to 1831. They are quite easy to use. From 1790 to 1831 they were classified by date and subject, under 47 headings, such as health, post office, military, public works, many of which deal with towns. Later papers were indexed only and so more persistence is needed to find relevant information.

Papers dealing with rebellions and unrest in the country are listed separately in the late eighteenth to the early nineteenth centuries. These include the Outrage Papers (1832-1852), which were reports to the chief secretary with reference to law and order in the country and are arranged on a county basis by year., Rebellion Papers (1790-1807) indexed by person, place and subject and State of the Country papers (1790-1831) calendared by county.

For details, go to the National Archives site at -:

http://www.nationalarchives.ie/govpapers.html

and use Outrage as the search string.

Parting Thought - (Something to Ponder Over)

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." --- Groucho Marx
(definitely not Irish humour - Ed.,)

Merv Rossiter
merv@winshop.com.au

http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/rossiter (Merv's homepage)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv (Rossiter newsletters)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/mottos.htm (Irish Family Mottos)
http://www.winshop.com.au/merv/gcags/irish (Irish newsletters)

End of Newsletter 18 - June 2001

Editorial

Are you Irish or normal.? This begs the following questions.
Are you Irish and normal
Are you Irish and not normal?
Are you not Irish but normal ?
Are you not Irish and not normal ?., and
Are the Irish people normal ?

After watching on TV the new Ballykissangel series I would say that some of the Irish people in the film are not normal. And the catholic priest, Father Vincent Sheehan from Wagga Wagga in New South Wales in Australia doesn't make the series any better.

On the other hand, I recently watch a video, "Lord of the Dance" where Gillian Norris who played (danced) the part of the Gypsy, looked very Irish and more than "normal". Gillian is very much like the Irish "coleen" I dream about. Her 35 fellow dancers (men and women) were a delight to watch.

I will be attending the "Fourth Irish Genealogical Congress" at Trinity College in Dublin from 17th September to the 23rd September 2001 where I'm sure I will meet many wonderful Irish people.

Book Review - One

"Are You Irish or Normal"
by John O'Grady alias Sean O'Grada alias Nino Culotta
pub.1970 by Ure Smith

Can you imagine two Irish men in a pub discussing Irish history over a bottle or two or three of the best Irish whisky?. If you can, then this is the setting for this amusing and hilarious book.

The story starts many centuries before the birth of Christ with the statement that "the first Irishman was a Greek" and ends 209 pages later in the early 17th century with the "flight of the earls". In the intervening period and between many verbal stoushes caused by the every flowing whisky, a lot of Irish history is exposed. This is a brilliant book.

John Patrick O'Grady - A Biography

John Patrick O'Grady was born 09 October 1907 in Sydney and educated at St.Stanislau's College Bathurst and Sydney University. He wrote short stories, plays and poems, drawing on his work experience as a chemist, builder's labourer, fisherman and a soldier during World War Two. His most successful novel "They're a Weird Mob (1957) , was written under the pseudonym of "Nino Culotta". O'Grady was a resident of Oatley, a suburb about 20kms south of Sydney, and he wrote most of this book in the Oatley pub. It purports to be an autobiographical account of an Italian immigrant attempting to come to terms with the Australian way of life, and it was made into a film in 1966. Two subsequent books by "Nino Culotta" were "Cop This Lot" (1960) and "Gone Fishing" (1962).

O'Grady was a qualified pharmacist and he had a variety of jobs, including serving with the Army Medical Service 1942-50 and working in Samoa 1956-1958. Although born in Sydney, he spent much of his childhood on a remote New England farm and had no formal education until the age of twelve. He qualified as a pharmacist, but found the profession unsatisfying. In 1936 he began work as a commercial traveller selling medical goods. During WWII he served with the army Medical Service. He left the army in 1950 and worked as a pharmacist, builder's labourer, teacher of pharmacy for the NZ government in Samoa, and a fisherman.

He wrote the following books.

They're a Weird Mob : a novel (1958)
No Kava for Johnny (1961) Gone Fishin' (1962)
The Things They Do To You (1963)
Cop This Lot : a novel (1965)
Ladies and Gentlemen (1966)
Gone Troppo (1968)
O'Grady Sez (1969)
So Sue Me! (1970)
Are You Irish or Normal? (1970)
Aussie Etiket : or, Doing things the Aussie way (1971)
Smoky Joe, the Fish Eater (1972)
It's Your Shout, Mate : Aussie pubs and Aussie beers (1972)
Survival in the Doghouse (1973)
Aussie English : an explanation of the Australian idiom (1973)
Now Listen, Mate! (1974)
Gone Gougin' (1975)
There Was a Kid : John O'Grady's autobiography, volume 1 (1977)
Down Under to Up Over (1980)
John O'Grady Classics (1991)

O'Grady suffered ill health and died before he could complete volume two of his autobiography. He died 14th Jan 1981 in Sydney.

According to John O'Grady, the family's ancestral roots were in Limerick. Sean O'Grada fought against the English in the "Seige of Limerick" in 1690. He fought alongside a Frenchman, Martin de la Ney (anglicised to Delaney) and the two of them made a pact whereby Sean's descendants would be named Martin Delaney and Martin's descendants named Sean.(John). The pact got off to a good start with Sean's sister marrying Martin de la Ney.

Herewith part of John O'Grady's family tree.

*James O'GRADY b.Ireland, m.1841 St.Francis RC Melbourne,Vic. Australia, Elizabeth BAKER
**Martin Delaney O'GRADY, b.Victoria, d1928 Sydney., m(1) 1867 Catherine RYAN.,
....m(2) 1881, Anna Maria MATTHIEU
***John E O'GRADY, b1882 Shepperton, d1968, m1907 Margaret GLEESON
****John O'GRADY, (author).b1907 Waverley, d14 Jan 1981 Sydney

Video Review - "Lord of the Dance" starring Michael Flatley

Running time 92 minutes
Available from Polygram
Filmed in front of a live audience in 1996 at the Point Theatre in Dublin.

Act One
Scene one - Cry of the Celts
Scene two - Erin the Goddess
Scene three - Celtic Dream
Scene four - The Warriors
Scene five - Gypsy
Scene six - Strings of Eire, violin duet
Scene seven - Breakout
Scene eight - Warriors
Scene nine - Erin the Goddess
Scene ten - The Lord of the Dance

Act Two
Scene one - Dangerous Game
Scene two - Hell's Kitchen
Scene three - Fiery Nights
Scene four - The Lament, violin duet
Scene five - Siamsa
Scene six - She Moves Through The Fair
Scene seven - Stolen Kiss
Scene eight - Nightmare
Scene nine - The Duel
Scene ten - Planet Ireland

Lord of the Dance is about old Irish folklore., good versus evil where the Dark Lord (the Warriors) challenge the Good Lord, (the Lord of the Dance)

The highlight of the performance, for me, was the violin duets by the two "blonde bombshells" Mairead Nesbit and Cora Smythe. In Act One, scene six, Strings of Eire, they play a rousing violin "duel". In Act Two, Scene Four, The Lament, they play a very soulful piece of music.

There is plenty of dancing, some flute playing and a couple of songs, (one in gaelic) to make this performance a wonderful spectacle.

More Irish Bookmarks on the Internet

'The Hedge School" byWilliam Carleton http://mockingbird.creighton.edu/english/micsun/IrishResources/carlcont.htm

"The First Confession" by Frank O'Connor
http://www.ireland-information.com/firstconfession.htm

"The Importance of Being Ernest"
http://clubi.ie/qualitycompany/ss/ernest.txt

"The Nowlans" by John Banim (1926)
http://mockingbird.creighton.edu/english/micsun/ IrishResources/Nowlans/now/cont.htm

"The History of the City of Dublin"
http://indigo.ie/~kfindlay/Harris/

"Riders to the Sea" by J.M.Synge http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/browse-mixed-new?id=SynRide&tag= public&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed

"The Collegians" by Gerald Griffin
http://mockingbird.creighton.edu/english/micsun/IrishResources/ Collegians/collcont.htm

"The Dark Lady of the Sonnets" by George Bernard Shaw http://www.clubi.ie/qualitycompany/ss/darklady-txt

"Castle Rackrent" by Maria Edgeworth (pub.1800) http://mockingbird.creighton.edu/english/micsun/IrishResources/ CastleRackrent/rachcont.htm

Selected Poetry of Thomas Moore (1779-1852) http://www.library.utoronto.ca/utel/rp/authors/moore.html

"The Reaping Race" by Liam O'Flaherty
http://www.ireland-information.com/

Book Review - Two

"Roger Casement"
by Brian Inglis
pub. 1974 by Coronet Books Hodder Paperbacks Ltd., London Paperback
462 pages

Roger David Casement was born 01 September 1864 at Sandycove in Dublin. When he left school he started work in the Elder Dempster shipping line in Liverpool. At the age of 20 he became a voluntary unpaid worker in the Congo working for Stanley (of Stanley and Livingstone fame). Soon after he joined the British Colonial Service

The book is about Casement's life and works in the Congo, Uganda, Portuguese West Africa, Santos (South America), Para, (Brazil), Rio de Janiro and Colombia and at times it touches on Casement's alleged sexual activities thought to have been written by him in his diaries.

In 1904 Casement published a "Report on the Working Conditions in the Belgian Congo" which exposed the atrocities inflicted on the native labourers employed in the rubber plantations. In 1911 he went to South America and wrote his "Putumayo report" about the atrocities inflicted on the native labourers there who were also engaged in the rubber plantations. This report earned him a Knighthood.

In 1913 he resigned from the Foreign Service to concentrate on Irish affairs. He believed in an Irish Free State and worked to that end. The book traces his activities in Ireland and Germany

In 1916 CASEMENT went to Germany and addressed Irish prisoners of war hoping to enlist them in an Irish Brigade to secure Home Rule. On April 24 he sailed on a German submarine and landed at Kerry where he was arrested soon after.

Roger CASEMENT was convicted of treason and hanged and buried 03 August 1916 at Pentonville Jail, London His remains were exhumed and reburied at Glasnevin Cemetery in Dublin 23 February 1965.

On the back cover, newspapers proclaim this book as the definitive biography, the only adequate biography, a splendid book and an enthralling study. In my opinion the reviewers must have been "in bed with the publishers or on their payroll".

To me, the book was an utter disappointment. It cannot be a true biography because there is little information about Casement's childhood life. Inglis doesn't even mention the names of Roger's parents. All he said about them was that they both died when Roger was about ten years of age. Also there is no mention of any of Roger's ancestors or of his relatives who emigrated to Australia.

While Roger Casement was in prison awaiting his trial the British government let it be known publicly that Casement was a homosexual and distributed what was allegedly copies from his diaries in an attempt to discredit him. Soon there were two camps, one claiming Casement to be a homosexual and one claiming that the diaries were forged, a dispute that has not been settled one way or the other to this day. Therefore it was surprising to read where Inglis said that Casement was a homosexual and then did very little to justify this claim. He knew that in 1887 the London Times newspaper and some politicians had conspired to get rid of Charles Stewart Parnell by publishing letters that had been forged which implicated Parnell in the Phoenix Park murders. He knew that this may have been a similar attempt to discredit Casement. Yet Inglis glosses over the Phoenix Park incident and proclaims Casement a homosexual. In my opinion Inglis should have protected his own reputation by taking a neutral stand.

No one saw Casement misbehave, no one complained, no one confessed. The only so called evidence is in the diaries. An article published in the "Irish Democrat" Feb /March 1998 claims that a computer analysis of the diaries show that the first three were not written by Casement.

Summing up, the book in my opinion is a disaster. It is a disaster not so much for what Inglis has written but for what he has omitted. A true biography of Roger David Casement will be written after the British Government have commissioned an enquiry and all information has been made available. Also, a true biography will be written when the author is not only a historian, but is a capable family historian. There is a big difference between the two.!

The Phoenix Park Murders

Lord Frederick CAVENDISH, British Secretary for Ireland, and his under-secretary, Thomas Henry BURKE were stabbed to death in Phoenix Park in Dublin on the 6th May 1882 by members of the "Invincibles", a terrorist splinter group of the Fenian movement.

Nine members of the gang were arrested and brought to trial nine months later. James CAREY, Richard FARRELL, William LAMIE, and Michael KAVANAGH turned informers and escaped the hangman's noose.. After the trial CAREY was deported to South Africa where he was assassinated by a fellow Irishman. Those found guilty and hanged were Joseph BRADY, Timothy KELLY, Michael FAGAN, Daniel CURLEY, Thomas CAFFREY.

On April 18, 1887 the London "Times" published a letter professing to be signed by Charles Stewart PARNELL, a Member of Parliament, which implicated him in the Phoenix Park murders. A subsequent commission of enquiry exonerated PARNELL in 1890 and exposed the letter as a forgery.

The letter was forged by Richard PIGGOTT, a former Dublin journalist. He approached the Liberal Chief Whip, Lord Richard GROSVENOR who referred him to Edward Caufield HOUSTON, a former corespondent for "The Times" in Dublin and then secretary of the Irish Loyal and Patriotic Union. That there was collusion between certain government members and the staff of "The Times" has not been proven but the implication was there.

Brian Inglis - Author of "Roger Casement"

So what does the book tell the reader about the author? Answer, Nothing. Nothing at all. Not an Irish sausage. I did, however, find some information at a website named "The Princess Grace Irish Library of Monaco"

Brian Inglis born 1916 Malahide, County Dublin., was educated at Shrewsbury, Trinity College in Dublin and Oxford University. His auto biography "West Briton" was published in 1962. He died in 1991.

For more information go to http://www.pgil-eirdata.org/html/az_datasets/authors/i/Inglis.Brian/life.htm

The Casement - Australian Connection

Hugh CASEMENT, Roger's uncle died in Melbourne in 1861 aged 35.

Hugh CASEMENT, Roger's grandfather and his second wife Rachel ATKINS and their three children emigrated to Melbourne in 1862 per "Queen of Beauty"

Also Charles William Adam Ball CASEMENT, Roger's brother emigrated to Melbourne.

Sir Roger David Casement - His Family Tree

*CASEMENT. Ewan, (Hugh) born Isle of Man, m Elizabeth HIGGINSON

Children of Ewan CASEMENT and Elizabeth HIGGINSON

**Roger b1756, d unk,m.(1)15Jul1787 Kirk Patrick Peel.Catherine COSNAHAN ....d.10Oct1809Ballymena (d.in childbed),m(2) 1819/20 Margaret McQUITTY (his housekeeper)

Children of Roger CASEMENT and Catherine COSHAHAN (14 all bap.1809)

***William
***John Joseph
***George
***Hugh. b11Dec1793Belfast, d1863 Melbourne Australia
......arr.Melbourne Australia 1862 per "Queen of Beauty"
......m.(1)c1795London Agnes TURNBULL, d1848
......m.(2) Rachael ATKINS, b1832, d Australia
......arr.Melbourne Australia 1862 per "Queen of Beauty"
***Julius
***Elizabeth
***Roger
***Thomas
***Thomas
***Catherine
***Robert
***Francis
***Cornelius
***Elianor
***Rosetta

Children of Roger CASEMENT and Margaret McQUITTY (7 only) Not known yet

Children of Hugh CASEMENT and Agnes TURNBULL

****Roger b1819 Belfast, d26May1877 Ballymena, (soldier and protestant)
........m24Apr1855 StAnne's Belfast. Annie JEPHSON
****Catherine
****Henrietta
****Hugh b c1826 Belfast, d1861 Victoria Australia
****Eleanor

Children of Hugh CASEMENT and Rachael ATKINS

****David b c1853
****Henrietta (Christina) b1859, d1862 Vic.

Children of Roger Casement and Annie JEPHSON

*****Agnes Jane (Nina)
*****Charles William Adam Ball, d Australia
*****Thomas Hugh Jephson
*****Roger David (Sir) b 01Sep1864 Sandy Cove Dublin, d03 Aug1916 London

Internet Site of the Month

Irish Literature, Mythology, Folklore and Drama
http://www.luminarium.org/mythology/ireland/

check out the freebies

Gleanings From the Internet

"The William Smith O'Brien Petition" is now on cd-rom and is available from Eneclann at http://www.eneclann.ie

A review is on-line at Dick Eastman's Newsletter (31May 2001) at http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/eastman/3964.asp

Bits and Pieces

"Once upon a time there were three Indian squaws in a tepee. One slept on a deer hide, one slept on a moose hide and one slept on a hippopotomus hide. The squaw on the deer hide had a son. The squaw on the moose hide had a son. But the squaw on the hippopotomus hide had twins. Which proves the squaw on the hippopotomus was equal to the sum of the squaws on the other two hides."

from "There Was a Kid" by John O'Grady

P.S. Pythagoras - he's right

First Parting Thought

"What they do on their dunnies in Dunedoo is their own business" from "There Was A Kid" by John O'Grady

(or should it be "what the Dunnes do on their dunnies in Dunedoo is their own business". Ed.,)

Dunedoo is 350 kms northwest of Sydney in New South Wales.

Second Parting Thought

"The ghost of Roger Casement is beating on the Door." - W.B.Yeats

Merv Rossiter
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End of TIN No.19 - August 2001